Hayti 25 centimes, L'AN 14 (1817),small '14', '1' far from 'N','4' far from '1'

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  1. SRSNUM

    SRSNUM Well-Known Member

    Below for comment find digital images of a coin in my collection. It appears to be a K15.1 variant. It exhibits a small '14' located far from the 'N' of L'AN, with the '1' and '4' considerably separated from each other. 'T' of 'PRESIDENT' exhibits broken serifs.

    OBVERSE
    HAITI25CENTIMES1817OBV.jpg


    REVERSE
    HAITI25CENTIMES1817REV.jpg

    REVERSE-MAGNIFIED IMAGE
    HAITI25CENTIMES1817REV2.jpg
     
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  3. DEA

    DEA Well-Known Member

    Howdy, SRSNUM!

    I agree what you have there is a KM 15 - https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces10345.html. However, I cannot tell if it's a KM 15.1 or a KM 15.2. I suspect a KM 15.2, as I do not see any indication of a P on your close up.

    Numista only mentions a "P" on the obverse - at somewhere along the bottom of the bust. I cannot find anything about the size of the "14" being large or small. Where did you find that information? I would appreciate knowing! Thanks.

    David
     
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    SRSNUM Well-Known Member

    Thank you DEA for your response. Below, find the text and digital image from the Numista site link provided. Note the red arrow points to the 'P' below the bust associated with the KM #15.2 designation. As my coin does not exhibit a 'P', it appears my coin is of the KM #15.1 type.

    In designating my coin as a type with "small 14", I admit it is my own invention, not indicated elsewhere to my knowledge. I examined dozens of images of KM #15.1 and KM #15.2 from Ebay and elsewhere on the internet and
    found that all the images exhibit large '1s' or large '4s' (or both) either in height or width. As an example, note the Numista link image below shows the '14' to be of the "large" type...similar in size to the 'AN' (although the '4' may be taller than the 'AN').

    See additional examples below.


    TEXT & DIGITAL IMAGE FROM THE NUMISTA SITE

    14 (1817) 86% AN14; KM#15.1
    14 (1817) P 19% AN14; KM#15.2 (P below truncation of Petion bust)


    283-original.jpg

    Image from Krause-NGC website of KM #15.1...
    note 'large' (wide '4').
    1415072-4884680-003b.jpg



    Image from eNumismat site. Note this example shows
    a period both before and after 'P'. In addition it also exhibits a large '4' along with a somewhat smaller '1' far from the 'N'.

    e3625980068_dodo_57.jpg


    Image from MA shops site. Note this example shows a
    small '1' and larger '4' (similar in size to the AN) with '1' close to the 'N'. In contrast my example shows both '1' & '4' small (the '4' a tad taller than the '1') with '1' far from the 'N'.
    43369_00948a00_c.jpg
     
  5. DEA

    DEA Well-Known Member

    Ah-ha! Thanks, SRSNUM. You have a terrific eye for detail.
     
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