my question , a (DN N9/8 -1859 large cent). Any one know what this is? What does the DN mean? the N9/8 is a narrow 9 over an 8. but what is DN? I cant find anything on that coin. please help. (Not a DP N9.- Double Punched Narrow 9) a DN N9/8. This is 1 of the 4 varieties listed in the uni-safe Canada large cent album. I purchased this album and have filled most of it, but not the 3rd 1859 large cent in this album. Stated as a " DN N9/8" - What does DN mean? and what coin is this? 1859 large cent known as: DN N9/8
Here's an interesting post on the topic... "1859 saw many small varieties in the 1 cent coins. The most common variety is the standard Narrow 9, of which there is a sub variety known as the Low 9. Several left over 1858 dies were re-punched to change the date from 1858 to 1859 without first erasing the second 8, sometimes resulted in part of the 8 still visible below the 9, and are known as a 9 over 8 (or 9/8) varieties. Other varieties are known as "double punch varieties" probably are a type of 9/8 but with no trace of the old 8 visible, but have slightly oddly shaped 9's. To understand the differences between the many 1859 varieties, it is best to consult the pictures of them in the Charlton standard catalogue of Canadian Coins." Source: http://www.calgarycoin.com/modern/cdcent.htm Note to self: Google is your friend.
Oh, yes, it is certainly an overdate. No doubt. But the DN is what is throwing us off. here are two sites with good pictures for 1859 varietys: http://www.canadiancoin.com/ the drop down menu on the left >> varietys >> 1859 http://varieties.piczo.com/?cr=3
yes definate an over date 9 over 8. like a DP double punched. DP 9/8,But what is this DN. do you think the maker of the large cent album messed up? DN N9/8? I have a w9/8(wide 9over8)certified. and a normal narrow 9 coin also.so do you think this DN N9/8 was a miss spell and should be a DP N9/8. which would be a double press of a Narrow 9 over an 8. considering that I have the W9/8 (wide 9 over the 8) maybe a die wasnt a wide9 but a narrow 9. Im just shocked that know ones had problems filling this album.
IM missing this 1 coin and for the full album, and its p***ing me off. I look on all sights people are recommending but come up with nothing. and if you type DN N9/8 you'll never get a result.
holy wow snaz!!! that second site, does talk about a DP #1 AND DP#2 one with the wide 9 and the other narrow9. there fore this must be the case. darn album makers. messing with me.lol. the site also talks about this 9/8 possibly not actually being 9 over 8 but being a variation of die chips. I hope thats not the case or what a waste of money on my part. As if no one knows this for sure, either there is an 8 under that 9 or not. now im real confused.
this theory of just being die chips makes sense as I examine close ups of these 9's, and i've ran presses for many many years, and if the sharp edges of the 9 were worn down and not so sharp or small chips on the edges, the result would be 9's that look like this. Instead of being clean cut or pressed, it would push some metal in different directions. Due to a worn mark or chip. does that mean the whole Double punched theory is just made up and that they actually are just worn dies. that would change the whole collecting 9 over 8's of these coins. considering they would actually be just sloppy nines in many forms depending on where the worn marks or chips are located on the 9.
thanks for all the help snaz. much appreciated. that site bummed me out though because I know through the pics on the 2nd sight you suggested that some one is right. I see no evidence of an 8 under those nines , just evidence of smeared damaged 9's. lol and what they call a beard,lol, no 8 has a stick on it at the bottom left. yet a worn 9 die stamp would cause that beard without any doubt. with metal pressed out at the worn mark/chip. making many varities really just damaged 9 die stamps. Ive seen that same mark numerous times, on numbers through my ten years of changing worn numbers in dies. if there was an 8 you would always see the part in the gap of the 9 and it would completely join the bottom.seems like people just guessed on what it was and were wrong. They should have just called them an error!or smeared 9. any one want to buy a set of 1858-1920 large cents minus 1 coin a DN N9/8. according to the uni-safe album, which should be a DP #1.
It's a typo. The Canadian guardmaster album has it as DP N9 #1 & DP N9 #2. No such thing as DN N9/8 .
