Squidward's Ancient Relative and a Random Roman Provincial

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  1. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

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    Ok, I know these are not ancient cephalopod god-creatures...But dang it if they don't look like octomen.

    I've been wanting one of these cool Sri-Lankan coins since I first saw them. They have been hard for me to find in my price range though. I love the super stylized imagery.
    I got lucky with my new (and @Marsyas Mike 's old) favorite ebay seller with awful descriptions and just as bad photos.
    These were described as "Roman", which clearly they are not...


    Queen Lilavati
    One Massa
    1197-1211 AD
    Obverse: king, standing upon a lotus stalk, holding a lamp in his left hand and a flower in his right, a large lotus flower in field to right, all heavily stylized
    Reverse: seated king facing right, left arm raised upward, holding a shell, all heavily stylized. Nagari legend (‘Sri Ra ja Li la va ti’) to right
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    "But what is that random Roman provincial you mentioned?"
    I'm glad you asked...
    This coin was also in the same lot and since the pictures were so bad, I just assumed it was a lower grade coin of the same type. When it came today though, I was mildly surprised to see that the "tentacles" were in fact grain ears.

    I did some searching and believe that it is a provincial coin of Lydia, Philadelphia. I'm guessing pretty hard here but I think it may be Claudius on the obverse.
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    All-in-all, this was a fun set of coins for ~$6 a piece.

    Let's see some of your very stylized coins or other provincial Roman coins with grain ears. Who knows, maybe someone has a better version of mine.
    Thanks for looking :)
     
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  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Vespasian from Apameia, maybe??? RPC II, 1389, like this one.

    Vespasian Apamia AE.jpg
     
  4. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    My guy doesn't seem to have the fat neck like Vespasian.
    I should've added that it is about 18mm and 4.52g.

    Perhaps he will always remain a mystery.
     
  5. JayAg47

    JayAg47 Well-Known Member

    My octopus coins: from Cholas, Pallavas, and Pandyas (aka panda as you'd call ;)).
    Raja Raja Chola (985-1014 AD)
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    Perunjinga Pallavas of Sendamangalam (1228-1278)
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    Jatavarman Sundara Pandya I (1251-1268)
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    And an actual octopus from Syracuse.
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  6. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

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  7. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    It could be Domitian or Titus: Look.
     
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  8. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Those have the legend between the stalks and the beads on the reverse. Mine doesn't. Or at least not all the way around. Looks more like these (to me at least)
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  10. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    These 2 are Sahasa Malla, 1200-1202AD I believe:


    Sahasa Malla
    One Massa
    1200-1202
    Obverse: king, standing upon a lotus stalk, holding a lamp in his left hand and a flower in his right, a large lotus flower in field to right, all heavily stylized
    Reverse: seated king facing right, left arm raised upward, holding a shell, all heavily stylized. Nagari legend (‘Sri ma tSa ha sa Ma llai’) to right
    SahasaMalla, One Massa, 1.png Sahasa Malla, One Massa, 2.png


    The other 2 are harder to read and I am working on them still.
     
  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Mr NoodleMan:

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    Sri Lanka
    Bhuvanaika Bahu
    CE 1273-1284
    Æ Massa
    3.9g 19mm
    King throne solar symbol altar flame lotus -
    King reclining sankh-conch
    Nagari-Sri Bhuvanaika Bahu MNI 851-52
     
  12. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Perhaps the Flying Spaghetti Monster IS real and medieval Sri Lankans were way ahead of the rest of us :p
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  13. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    A fun post @furryfrog02 : here's one of these Sri Lankan coins:
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    Sri Lanka (Ceylon), native coinage, Polonnaruwa period, Sahasa Malla,1200-1202, Æ Kahavanu
    Obv: King standing facing right, holding lotus; altar, flame, and pellets in fields
    Rev: King reclining right, holding sankh; king’s name and title in Brahmi to right
    Ref: Mitchiner, Non-Islamic 840-1
    Note: Here is a useful note on these coins from Peter Lewis, which I liked for the pictures for decoding the letters on the reverse.

    and some grain ears with a caduceus from Egypt:
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    Roman Provincial, Egypt, Alexandria, Claudius, AD 41-54, Æ Diobol, 25mm, 12.57g, 12h), Dated RY 10 (AD 49/50)
    Obv: TI KΛAV KAI CЄBACTOC, laureate head right; L I (date) before
    Rev: Bundle of four stalks of grain and winged caduceus; AVTO–KPA across field
    Ref: Dattari (Savio) 140; RPC I 5175; Emmett 78.10
     
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  14. Spaniard

    Spaniard Well-Known Member

    I have a few of the old octopus man....
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  15. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Nice!
    Also, I think your picture helped me to ID the last 2 I couldn't figure out. They may both be Raja Raja. What do you think?
     
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  16. Spaniard

    Spaniard Well-Known Member

    @furryfrog02.......Yes both Raja Raja and nice examples too!
     
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  17. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I'm glad you posted that picture!
    These coins are really cool. I will have to keep my eyes out for more.
     
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  18. Spaniard

    Spaniard Well-Known Member

    @furryfrog02.....Just a little bit of information on your two Sahasa malla coins...
    Codrington references 4 different legend variants of this ruler....
    Here's my two with an overlay to show...
    You'll notice that the SA has a T tag under 1st horizontal line-The HA is fuller with a tail on the bottom horizontal line-And there´s only a single LA...This is a much rarer type...You have 1 of each type as below congrats!
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    ps...Looks like you've posted the same obverse for the 2 Raja coins?
     
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  19. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Awesome! Thanks for the info!
    Yeah, I noticed that I biffed the pictures. I blame all the kids running around and distracting me. :p
    Here are the corrected obverses with their corresponding reverses:
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