Doubled my Decius Double Sestertii

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  1. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    What could possibly be better than nice hefty Imperial sestertius? A double sestertius of course! And what could be better than a double sestertius? Hmmm... two of them? :D

    I first learnt of these when my friend @dougsmit showed his here some years ago, and even though I managed to acquire one of these rare coins about 2 years ago, when I noticed Doug's own coin up for sale in John Anthony's most recent auction, I couldn't help but want to adopt it too. My initial thought was to sell mine if I won Doug's since though mine is in higher grade, it has a lesser pedigree, and who really needs two of these anyway. However, from initial thought to current thinking, the answer that offers itself up to the question is... uhm, me? :shame: Conversely, why Doug seems to think he doesn't need even one is quite beyond me! o_O

    Doug's pics are naturally better, but I gave it a shot anyway...

    Trajan Decius - Double Sestertius ex Dougsmit.JPG
    TRAJAN DECIUS
    AE Double Sestertius. 32.54g, 35.8mm. Rome mint, AD 249-251. RIC 126a; Cohen 115. O: IMP C M Q TRAIANVS DECIVS AVG, radiate and cuirassed bust right. R: VICTORIA AVG, Victory advancing right, holding wreath and palm branch; S-C across field.
    Ex Doug Smith Collection

    My other (note the different reverse type - yet another reason to keep it!):

    Trajan Decius - Double Sestertius Felicitas new 3725.jpg
    TRAJAN DECIUS
    AE Double Sestertius. 32.59g, 36.1mm. Rome mint, AD 250. RIC IV 115a; Cohen 39; Banti 9. O: IMP C M Q TRAIANVS DECIVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right. R: FELICITAS SAECVLI, Felicitas standing to left holding long caduceus and cornucopia; S-C across field.
    Ex Dr C. Haymes Collection; ex Bruce R. Brace Collection

    Coincidental trivia: Trajan Decius, the first Roman emperor to be killed by a foreign enemy, died this week 1,770 years ago at the Battle of Abritus. To commemorate his short but numismatically interesting reign, please show us your favorite Decius coins!
     
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  3. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Great coins - I can see the reason to keep both!

    I only have a lowly, rough antoninianus of this unfortunate fellow:
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  4. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Glad that you got that one @zumbly ! It's a beautiful coin and I love the Victory reverse :)
     
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  5. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Great coin. Here are two ants of Decius.

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    Trajan Decius, AD 249-251

    AR antoninianus, 23mm, 5.2g,12h; Rome mint.

    Obv.: IMP C M Q TRAIANVS DECIVS AVG; Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust to right, seen from behind.

    Rev.: GENIVS EXERC ILLYRICIANI; Genius, wearing polos on head, standing left, holding patera and cornucopiae; to right, standard.

    Reference: RIC 16c.
    From the Theodosius Collection.

    Trajan Decius A.D. 249-251
    AR Antoninianus, 4.1 grams, 23 mm
    Rome mint

    Obverse: IMP C M Q TRAJANVS DECIVS AVG, Radiate, draped, and cuirassed bust right

    Reverse: ABVND ANTIA AVG; Abundantia standing right, emptying cornucopiae held in both hands.

    Reference: RIC IVc 10b, p. 121


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  6. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Thanks! I'm glad you shared another neat Decius double with that two Pannoniae type. Less commonly seen is the lonely single Pannonia type...

    Herennius Etruscus - Ant Antioch Pannonia Rare 2697.jpg HERENNIUS ETRUSCUS
    AR Antoninianus. 3.85g, 23.9mm. Antioch mint, AD 250-251. RIC (Decius) 158 (rare). O: HEREN TRV MES Q V DECIVS CAESAR, radiate, draped bust right, •• below. R: PANONNIAE, Pannonia, veiled, draped, standing front, head right, holding helmet in right hand and standard in left hand.

    Thank you! I have a feeling for you what might trump a double sestertius with a Victory reverse is a double sestertius with a double Victory reverse. Well, they made those too! :D

    Postumus - DS Double Victory 2017.jpg
    POSTUMUS
    AE Double Sestertius. 9.85g, 27mm. Atelier II, AD 261-263. Bastien 152; RIC 166; Sear 11069; Cohen 407. O: IMP C M CASS LAT POSTVMVS P F AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right. R: VIC[TORIAE A]VG, two Victories standing face to face, attaching shield to palm tree, captives seated left and right below, S C in exergue.
     
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  7. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    How you gonna do that to me?? lol
    Teasing me with things I can only stare at through the shop window and drool :p
     
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  8. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    My Decius common Dacia Antoninanus
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    RIC IV Trajan Decius 12b
    Trajan Decius AD 249-251. Rome Antoninianus AR 21 mm., 2,28 g.
    Date Range: AD 249 - AD 251
    Obverse Legend: IMP C M Q TRAIANVS DECIVS AVG
    Type: Bust of Trajan Decius, radiate, draped, cuirassed, right
    Reverse Legend: DACIA; Type: Dacia, draped in long robe reaching feet, standing left holding staff topped with a wolf's head (Draco)
     
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    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  10. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    zumbly, Selling the T. Decius/Felicitas bronze would be a mistake. The coin has great detail & a lovely patina :happy:. Pictured below are a few of my T. Decius provincial Tets from Antioch, Syria.

    McAlee 1106e, obv..JPG McAlee 1106e, rev..JPG

    McAlee 1125c, obv (3).JPG McAlee 1125c, obv (4).JPG

    Prieur 503, obv..JPG Prieur 503, rev..JPG

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  11. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Excellent pair of doubles, Z! I'm glad you're keeping both. :) Hopefully I'll manage to snag one someday, but in the meantime I'll show some bronzes on the wee side of the spectrum:

    Dupondius:
    decius dupondius.jpg

    Semis:
    decius semis.jpg
     
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  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I feel guilty sticking a friend with a coin I regret buying but Coin Talk has made a condition snob out of me. I did not expect it to sell since some of my better items got no bids. I'm not sure I am in the hobby anymore. I still like the coins I considered part of my specialty but intend to cut back on the ones I bought because I thought I need them. I hope someone wants the semis.

    My favorite Decius coin is the antoninianus overstruck on a denarius of Geta. I like weird coins.
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    Similarly, I like my 'thin' AE sestertius? that weighs only 11.2g. Was it the last blank poured and the ladle was running out? Was this a dupondius flan struck with sestertius dies? I don't know. Are the Victory reverse coins (like the double) lighter than others? I bought it from a 'good' dealer in 1989.
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  13. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Those are some fine provincial tets! I especially like that first one.

    Great dupondius, Sev. I'm often impressed by the quality of the engraving on Decius's portraits. They're surely some of the finest made during this period.

    Trajan Decius - Dupondius Liberalitas 2783.jpg
    TRAJAN DECIUS
    AE Dupondius. 12.53g, 24.5mm. Rome mint, AD 249-251. RIC 120c (scarce); Cohen 72. O: IMP C M Q TRAIANVS DECIVS AVG, radiate, cuirassed bust right. R: LIBERALITAS AVG, Liberalitas standing front, head to left, holding counting-board in her right hand and cornucopiae with her left; S-C in field.
    Ex G.G. Collection

    This year has made me feel pretty out of the hobby too, but the occasional win like your double sestertius helps. :)

    I'm not sure if the Victory reverses are any lighter than the others (my Felicitas double sest is about the same weight as yours), but my heavyset Dacia sestertius is 2.5x the weight of your Victory.

    Trajan Decius - Sestertius Dacia heavy ex Behnen 1958.jpg
    TRAJAN DECIUS
    AE Sestertius. 28.32g, 32.7mm. Rome mint, AD 249-250. RIC 112a (scarce); Cohen 18. O: IMP C M Q TRAIANVS DECIVS AVG, laureate, cuirassed bust right. R: DACIA, Dacia standing left holding staff surmounted by a wolf-like head (draco); S-C in field.
    Ex Behnen Collection (acquired from Coin Galleries, 24 June 1966)
     
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  14. ArtDeco

    ArtDeco Well-Known Member

    Phillip I Antoninianus
    Rome Mint 247-249
    RIC 62
    4.28 g. 24 mm

    Reverse:
    FIDES EXERCITVS, four standards, one of which is a legionary eagle.

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  15. roman99

    roman99 Well-Known Member

    I don’t have a double sestertius of Trajan Decius, but here’s my best Decius ant.

    23mm, 4.42 G
    RIC IV (III) 11B
     

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  16. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    A decent TD double sestertius is on my list, as well as other denominations, as I would like to built a denomination set of his, to pair the Divi series

    I will not show again the Divi series all of you have already seen ad nauseam, but rather a tremendous (to my eyes) antoninianus and a semis

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    Q
     
  17. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Q, I love your Decius Divi series - fantastic set and an incredible collecting achievement! I really like the semis too... it has an excellent portrait for a bronze fraction. Unlike your Dacia antoninianus, mine only has one good side, but I'm very fond of it nevertheless.

    Trajan Decius - Dacia new 1836.jpg
    TRAJAN DECIUS
    AR Antoninianus. 4.91g, 21.4mm. Rome mint, AD 249-250. RIC 12b; Cohen 16. O: IMP C M Q TRAIANVS DECIVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right. R: DACIA, Dacia standing left holding staff topped with a wolf-like head (Draco).
     
  18. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    zumbly, Wonderful portrait on that coin :happy:! The engraver captured a smile on that coin :cool:.
     
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  19. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Here is my double sestertius next to a photo I took of the Trajan Decius bust in the Capitoline Museum in Rome.

    TrajanDeciusDoublewithbust.jpg

    I have commented on CT several times about the fact that when busts are found they usually do not come identified. We use coins, where the portraits are identified, to identify the busts. Many times the busts come with their noses are broken off and then the restorer uses coin profiles to decide how the nose should look when restored. This whole process is subject to error. You can imagine it would be more impressive to find and publish a bust of Galba than of some unknown Roman Republican senator. I had my doubts about the bust in the OP of this thread:
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ga...not-so-beautiful-emperor.380859/#post-7603208

    I do not have any doubts about the bust of Trajan Decius. If you go to Rome, be sure to allot time for the hall of imperial busts in the Capitoline Museum. It's wonderful!
     
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  20. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    That's an excellent double sestertius, and the portrait is truly a spitting image of that on the Capitoline Museum bust.
     
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  21. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I've always wanted a double sestertius as a representative example, but they're really expensive!

    Instead I settle for the provincial "sestertius" of Viminacium and Dacia. Two of these equals one double sestertius, perhaps?

    Trajan Decius AE27 Moushmov Dacia 10 (2020_11_18 03_38_31 UTC).JPG
    Trajan Decius AE Sestertius Moushmov 44.JPG
     
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