Ok lets try this pole - I know how i feel towards the modern dollar coins, but i oftenwonder if i am alone, and how others feel about it..... This is not about the artistic design... Do you prefer the smaller or larger size, and do you prefer the (what i call) monopoly colored or the silver style coins.
dollars I prefer the larger coins, if for no other reason they look better in a collection. I also think a Teddy Rosevelt or a lady Liberty dollar would be great.
For circulation purposes the smaller monopoly coin is better IMO, however for collecting reasons the bigger the better and silver is awesome.
Unfortunately, they can't be real silver because that much silver would be worth more than a dollar. I think we're stuck with clad or alloys, and for me that would put a serious damper on a big dollar coin.
With the 'silver style' as mentioned in the poll, it is meant that it would be clad or some alloy. Guess i should have made that more clear. I just meant that it would be silver in color like the old silver dollar coins, so it could be clad or alloy.
I understood that. There were some comments about missing the old-style silver cartwheels, and I just wanted to point out that it wouldn’t be the same, at least for me, not being 90% (or even 1%) silver. I’m surprised you didn’t include a small golden coin, like the Sacagawea, in your poll. I would prefer that to a small “silver-style” dollar because the “silver-style” would look too much like a quarter (as in SBA). I just wish the golden coins didn’t deteriorate so fast. Given our choices, I guess I would go with the large clad, but not with a lot of enthusiasm unless they could come up with an inspiring design. I’m not sure what you’re referring to by Monopoly colored. I tend to think of notes in that context.
The monopoly colored choice was a reference to the golden dollar. It was also meant as a poke at the other colors they could someday choose to make coins. I prefer the clad, alloyd, grey kind myself. weather its silver, or silver colored, im not big on colored coins. I might do OK if the colored coin was a 'dollar size' akin to the silver dollars of the old days, but i cant do a small dollar, and then color the small dollar as well... ick!
We will never see a return to the large size dollar coin intended for circulation. If you check out the bills that created the SBA, Sacky and the new President dollar it is very clear that the large size was a major deterant to circulation and that the vending machines ,toll booths,etc required a smaller coin. Millions of dollars have been spend to fit coin op machines to accept the new dollar size, so no mater what color or design the dollar takes in the future we are stuck with this size, weight and thickness. Can you imagine the coin slot that would accept the old cartwheels?
The large dollars of old 'might' have been a detterant to using them in circulation, but i have yet to see the small dollars work for them either. They had the SBA, small and silver (colored) and it failed. Now they have the SAC dollar - small and colored... it too has so far failed. All this for these small dollars, and if you looked back - the IKES were hugely successfuly, the peace were very well liked, the morgans, the liberty's ... they were all very well loved and collected. I can certainly see the pattern and how to fix it .... but can they?!?! They spent millions (?) of dollars to except these new dollars.... they can make 'em to except the a bigger dollar.
As of this post -- Larger size, Silver style ------------17-----56.67% larger size, Monopoloy colored-------2------6.67% Smaller size, Silver style-------------3-----10.00% Smaller size, Monopoloy colored-----8-----26.67% Voters: 30. It looks like the large size silver (colored) alloy dollar is prefered almost 2 to 1 over the current option. Being in a democratic society - doesnt this mean the mint 'has' to change ;D
It sounds like you might be comparing the circulation ”failure” of the small dollars with the collector success of the big dollars. When you say the Ikes were hugely successful, well, I saw a lot fewer of those in circulation than I see Sacs and SBAs. If you’re only talking about success on the basis of collector acceptance, I would point out that sometimes it takes time before coins become popular. I’ve read that Morgans weren’t particularly popular with collectors in their day, either. Either way, I would agree with those who say that a dollar coin of any size isn’t going to be “successful” until the Mint quits making dollar notes. Meanwhile, the Mint isn’t going to go back to a large dollar. I was just reading that the Sacs are made in the same size, weight, and even electro-magnetic signature of the SBAs so that vending machines, stamp machines, turnpike/subway machines, etc., would not have to be reworked.
Very true - being a collector at heart, i may be getting the circulation failery and the collector success issues confused -- but i cant help it -- I am FIRST a collector, and second a circulator I do dissagree in that i dont think the small dollars would be successfull even if the mint stops making dollar bills - it would have to depend how you measure success.... forcing people to use coins they dont like (for whatever reason) i wouldn't call success. In all, i do agree i dont think the mint wil ever go back to a real dollar coin. Its just a huge loss IMHO!!
You live in Michigan...Have you never been to Canada? With the elimination of the dollar bill the dollar coin couldn't help but be a success just as it has in Canada. The Loonie was so successful that they added the $2 coin a few years later. Most Canadians under 20 have never spent or even held a Canadian $1 bill. And the Ike was a HUGE circulation failure causing the mint to try the smaller dollar coin.
