Presidential dollar series

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Daggarjon, Oct 5, 2005.

  1. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    I have read the legislation on the new dollar series, but i dont seem to 'get-it' all. Are these dollars going to commemorative, or for circulation? Also, what about the stance from the US Mint not to have any 'living persons' appearing onthe coins? will they ignore any living president? or will they include Bush jr, clinton and the other past prez's that are still alive.... One other thing... and this is the main reason i hat the golden dollar --- will the pres serires dollar coin be a real dollar coin? or is it going to be the same size as the golden dollar and SBA? The biggest reason i disliked both those coins is their size... i want a dollar coin that screams dollar... not a close cousin to the quarter.... the Ike dollar was a heafty 24.59 grams @ 38.1mm, the SBA was a puny 8.1 grams @ 26.5mm. Even the Kennedy is 11.5 grams @ 30.6mm. Get rid of these tiny dollars!!!!

    as a side note - i think i liked the old coinage that used pictures to depict liberty. I appreciated the use of past presidents, but i would really LOVE to see a change. I saw and read the thread for the new 2006 nickle.... but i would really liek to see womthing or someone other then jefferson. Maybe a new person, or a new represetation of something - ANYTHING..... So in 10+/- years when the presidential dollar series is over... any chance we might see someone other then scag?
     
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  3. bplinson

    bplinson Member

    How about more great Americans like Martin Luther King Jr. We have been putting Native Americans on coins and paper for years. How about a Black American?
     
  4. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    I would love to see Martin Luther King... that would be a fresh change for american coinage!!! Considering the changes he brought about... maybe the dollar for statue... or maybe the quarter to see the most use.....
     
  5. tanner520

    tanner520 Coin Lover

    Here's some data on this coin.

    Pres Dollar Link

    I was following this for a while and lost track lately but it doesn't look like things have changed with their plans and no new news has been released lately.
     
  6. lawdogct

    lawdogct Coin Collector

    I wonder how many of the designs will just be repeats or small mods to the presidential bronze medal set. (which can be obtained from the mint complete in album GW to GWB).
     
  7. Dockwalliper

    Dockwalliper Coin Hoarder

    From what I've read.
    The new dollar coins will be the same size as the Sackys although they may try some new alloy that might hold the gold color better.
    The whole premise of the president dollar is to improve dollar coin circulation so these are for circulation. The companion Gold first lady coins will be more in line of commems.
    The House version of the bill included living president but the senate version excluded them. This is one of the few differences that would need to be worked out before the bill becomes law. I think the Senate version will win out.
    As for the nickel. The Virginia congressional deligation has seen to it that Jefferson will grace the coin forever(or until another law is passed).
     
  8. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    i love that thomas site.. i get all my commemorative info there...

    heres what i found in the latest post there..

    ---"the American tradition of not issuing a coin with the image of a living person has served the country well and deserves to be continued as a general practice"

    It does not talk specifically about if the coins are commemorative or for general circulation. i have heard the sac dollar would be put on hold until this was done, but havent seen anything official.

    anyone else know anythign about this series?
     
  9. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    Please say your joking... they are making it gold-ish AGAIN... oh-boy!!! =9


    I re-read the thomas page and found this in a "small-print' :D sub-section that i missed the first time...
    ---"Issuance- The Secretary may mint and issue such number of $1 coins of each design selected under paragraph (5) in uncirculated and proof qualities as the Secretary determines to be appropriate"

    This is talking about the presidentail dollar, not the spouse gold's...
     
  10. Dockwalliper

    Dockwalliper Coin Hoarder

    The origional house version put the Sacky on hold but the North Dakota folks blocked passage until this was changed so in the house version that passed in June and the Senate version awaiting a vote the sacky will continue to be produced along side the new coins.

    Gonna make proof and mint sets more expensive.
     
  11. Dockwalliper

    Dockwalliper Coin Hoarder

    From section 22 of the Senate bill....

    the enactment of this Act will serve to in-
    crease the use of $1 coins generally, which will in-
    crease the circulation of the so-called ``Sacagawea-
    design'' $1 coins that have been and will continue to
    be minted and issued;
    the continued minting and issuance of the
    so-called ``Sacagawea-design'' $1 coins will serve as
    a lasting tribute to the role of women and Native
    Americans in the history of the United States;
     
  12. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    Dang - so they will continue with the sac dollar :( But even still, aside fromt he one spot where they say they will issue coins in uncirculated and proof condition - it doesnt say they will be used for 'general' circulation either specifically or unilateraly.

    ( i went back to tanner520 's link but its timed out)
     
  13. tanner520

    tanner520 Coin Lover

    Yup...Let's see. We'll have the five statehood quarters, four presidential dollars, one Sac dollar then the regular half dollar, dime, nickel and cent. So, that's a 14-piece proof set and a 28-piece mint set. :eek:
     
  14. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**


    If they make these dollars for general circulation..... the bill in the house and senate is kinda ambiguos (sp) as to if these coins are for Commems or for circulation....

    Why cant they just bring back the 'dollar' and not these silly 'tokens'? We do have the dime which is smaller then the Penny, but wouldnt it be nice to have a dollar that can be re-called in memories in the same manner as Ike, Peace or Morgan? Those were dollars!!!

    ok - off my soapbox on the size... for now :D
     
  15. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    dollars

    since they say uncirculated and proof coins, does anybody think they might replace the silver Eagle with the presidents since it has had an even 20 year run? Just a thought.
     
  16. lawdogct

    lawdogct Coin Collector


    I sincerely hope not!!! It's one of the last truely beautiful coins still produced by the US Mint.
     
  17. Andy

    Andy Coin Collector

    I happen to have a dozen or so Booker T Washington Commerative half dollars and another dozen or so of the Booker T Washington/George Washington Carver Commerative half dollars. But I agree that the time for a man like Martin Luther King to be placed on standard issue currency is due not because he was a great black american but because he was a great american.
     
  18. Dockwalliper

    Dockwalliper Coin Hoarder

    Yes, it does in several places.

    From the bill.............
    A BILL
    To require the Secretary of the Treasury to mint coins
    in commemoration of each of the Nation's past Presi-
    dents and their spouses, respectively, to improve circula-
    tion of the $1 coin,
    to create a new bullion coin, and
    for other purposes.
     
  19. Dockwalliper

    Dockwalliper Coin Hoarder

    And.....

    Congress finds the following:
    (1) There are sectors of the United States econ-
    omy, including public transportation, parking me-
    ters, vending machines, and low-dollar value trans-
    actions, in which the use of a $1 coin is both useful
    and desirable for keeping costs and prices down.
    (2) For a variety of reasons, the new $1 coin
    introduced in 2000 has not been widely sought-after
    by the public, leading to higher costs for merchants
    and thus higher prices for consumers.
    (3) The success of the 50 States Commemora-
    tive Coin Program (31 U.S.C. 5112(l)) for circu-
    lating quarter dollars shows that a design on a
    United States circulating coin that is regularly
    changed in a manner similar to the systematic
    change in designs in such Program radically in-
    creases demand for the coin, rapidly pulling it
    through the economy.
     
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