Anastatius & Justinianus Byzantium

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  1. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    added 2 more Byzantine emperors to my small collection:

    JC  Byzantium Anastasius CON 491-518.jpg

    JC  Byzantium Justinian I 527-565.jpg

    Please show your coins of Anastatius & Justinianus
     
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  3. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    Those are very nice coins @Andres2 ! Here are my favorite Anastasius and Justinian "Big Ms".


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  4. Hrefn

    Hrefn Well-Known Member

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    Between the reigns of Anastasius and Justinian, there was Justinian’s uncle Justin. I suspect your anecdote about Anastasius’ choice of successor refers to him. Justin was illiterate when he joined the army, but he had served as Tribune and Consul, and held the exalted rank of comes excubitorum, which was indeed commander of the imperial bodyguard, by the time he succeeded Anastasius. Personally, I question whether he was still illiterate by that time. upload_2021-6-1_20-42-37.jpeg

    He did soon associate his nephew Justinian with him as imperial colleague, and there are some uncommon solidi showing the two men enthroned together on the obverse. Sadly, the Hrefn collection lacks a specimen.

    Here is Justinian himself. upload_2021-6-1_20-47-37.jpeg upload_2021-6-1_20-49-24.jpeg

    Love your bronzes.
     
  5. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    I'm on my phone now so I can't post my pics but keep in mind that the parsimonious Anastasius left 23 million solidi in the treasury upon his demise!
     
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    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

  7. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Andres, Nice pick-ups :happy:. Are you going to remove any of the incrustation on the Justinian follis o_O? Pictured below is my crusty Anastasius follis. Click the image for a larger view.
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  8. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Just finished removing most of the encrustation:

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  9. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    A small module Anastasius AE23mm 7.79g

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  10. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Andres, Nice job :jawdrop:! It looks much better :happy:.
     
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  11. Hrefn

    Hrefn Well-Known Member

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    William Warden had a high price on this follis at the Boston Coin Show 23 years ago. When I saw it I immediately coveted it, but his asking price was as high as for a solidus! Happily I had some coins he was willing to accept in trade. I no longer recall what I swapped with him, but this coin ended up coming home with me. It is my only large Byzantine bronze, and I have no regrets.
     
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  12. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    That's a superb example @Hrefn
     
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  13. gogili1977

    gogili1977 Well-Known Member

  14. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Anastasius inherited a dysfunctional coinage with only a tiny 1-gram AE4 coin and gold coins, with no convenient denominations in between. He reformed the copper coinage in 498 by adding in a range of higher denominations, including the "small module" "M" 40-nummi piece. It wasn't 40 times the weight of the 1-nummis, so there was discontent with it and a second reform in 512 produced the well-known (and more common) "large module" "M" pieces (still not 40 times the weight, but closer). Here is a image showing their relative sizes.

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    The top coin is 8 mm, the middle is 25 mm and the bottom coin is an impressive 35 mm.

    For more about Byzantine coins, see: http://augustuscoins.com/ed/Byz/index.html
     
  15. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the explication and cogent demonstration, @Severus Alexander. This would make a good OP. --In nine lines! Who Knew?!?!!?
     
  16. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Cool pick ups, @Andres2 ! Great.

    I have very few AEs from the Eastern Romans:

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    BZ Justinian I 527-565 CE AE Folles 30mm 17g 40 Nummi M monogram

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    BZ Anastasius I 491-518 AE Post Reform Folles M monogram
     
  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

  18. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    Nice to stop by for a visit and see my old coin buddies! Hope you all are doing well!
     
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  19. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    It would be interesting (at least to me) if a thread were started showing the
    different byzantine rulers. Wouldn't mind seeing the different years where applicable.
     
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  20. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Nummus coins in general tend to be far rarer than the large and attractive folles.

    I don't really collect Byzantines, but I did find this tiny Anastatius 1-nummus in a large lot.
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    Since the M-follis seems to be the most common collecting focus, here's my I-follis (10-nummus) of Justinian to shake things up a bit.
    Justinian I AE Deca Sear 237.JPG

    And for good measure may as well post my best M-Follis of Justin (close enough to Justinian?)
    Justin I Constantinople SB63 (2020_11_18 03_38_31 UTC).JPG
     
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