Grade Opinions - 1881-S Morgan Dollar

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  1. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    You are very deserving of the compliment, thank you for the positive reply.
     
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  3. Captain Sully

    Captain Sully Active Member

    I agree with you with regard to cheeks but may go to MS64. I may get it graded by professional service, just once to compare with your thoughts. I have done that with my steelies and was surprised that they graded them MS64+ MS65 and MS 66
    Now, I believe I can compare the three rolls that I have to determine their future as well
     
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  4. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    The reverse looks MS66, but the obvious marks on the obverse focal areas should probably prevent a gem grade, leaving us with an MS64+. It is impossible to judge the PL from photos, but it looks like the reverse has a really good shot. I could see this coin in an MS64+* NGC holder.
     
  5. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Those cuts on her face are the only things stopping her from gem. As she is, I'm seeing MS63. But she's otherwise exquisite. Outstanding strike, as is typical with this year and mint mark. Tired, old dies, just bursting with glare. All-around uniformity on both sides, just a pleasure to look at.
     
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  6. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    The “Moose” is an 1881s. I have 7 major toners of this date, with a pedigree.
     
  7. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Normally, I would agree, but it is an 1881s. Any other date, for sure. But 1881s? I would max out at 63+. I really doubt PL, because there are no die markers striations on the obverse, from die polish. It is a beautiful coin for sure, but I see grade limitations. I would happily own it, and think it deserves a holder.
     
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  8. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    My initial thought on this coin was a solid MS63. I don't think it's any more than that. The nice thing is, in hand...the cheek hits are not distracting but I think they lower the technical grade. Personally, I like coins like this. In hand it has 65 eye appeal for 63 money...lol.
     
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  9. Skyman

    Skyman Well-Known Member

    Pretty coin.
     
  10. 1865King

    1865King Well-Known Member

    Can't tell if proof like by the pictures but, I would say a solid MS 63 and may slide into a 64. It has a little weakness over the ear but, I don't think it's actual wear.
     
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  11. Jim Dale

    Jim Dale Well-Known Member

    I like your 1881S Morgan. I have one that is similar to yours and I got M64 and was happy with it.
    Captain Sulley, Is that the Grumman AE6A or AE6E Electronic Intruder? The tail is a dead giveaway. I used to build models before my father passed and left my brother and I his coin collection. I'll take some pictures and post them sometime.
    Whoops! I'm sorry for stealing this thread.
     
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  12. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    The 1881-S Morgan is a very common date that is easy to find in Mint State with lots of luster. I have not looked at graded examples of this coin for a long time. Years ago the grading services were super conservative when they graded them. You needed an really nice looking coin to make MS-65. Some New Orleans Mint pieces that looked like some of the 1881-S MS-65s would have gotten MS-66 or ever higher.

    The OP is no better than MS-63. Back in the day it may have been less, given the conservative attitudes. Having it graded at today's prices would be done strictly for sentimental reasons unless you have one of those grading memberships when you have some free certifications coming.
     
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  13. Mac McDonald

    Mac McDonald Well-Known Member

    After reading posts to this point, I do think it has a chance to grade PL...and even 64...at least on a given day, after or before which it may not grade either, and so-on. Submit it...but don't hold your breath or cross your fingers.
     
  14. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Give it up. It ain’t PL. it is a nice 1881s Morgan. There is absolutely not enough contrast areas in the surrounding fields to indicate a PL coin, nor are there die polish striations. It is a nice 63 1881s, which is a common date coin. Submission would be a sentimental act.
     
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  15. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    MS 63 or 64 depending on how much those cheek marks matter to the grader...maybe a compromise at 63+ given that the rest of the coin is solid and the semi-pl look adds to the eye appeal.
     
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  16. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    That was my initial guess. I think you are right on.
     
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  17. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Glad for you. Guessed 63-64
     
  18. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Yeah but you know nickels right. So I like your guess
     
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