A New Type Of Error For My Collection

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Collecting Nut, Jun 1, 2021.

  1. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    This is a 2001-P, PCGS graded MS-66 coin. It’s a Sacagawea Dollar that has been treated by the US Mint with an anti-tarnish wash.

    I know the photos don’t look great but it’s the coin, not the photos. The coin in hand looks very much like these photos. It was difficult to get decent pictures and the coin itself even looks out of focus a little bit.

    Thevphoyo showing the slab is the way the coin looks in hand, very dark. The other two photos were taken with a strong light in order to try and show the detail on the coin. Remember, it is graded a MS-66.

    In my opinion, this test for an anti-tarnishing agent was a failure. It’s a great addition to my collection.
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  3. CygnusCC

    CygnusCC Roping the Learns Supporter

    Huh... well, not a complete failure, I suppose. It looks to me like they've made a fairly consistent and well performing tarnishing agent.
     
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  4. cpm9ball

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    @Collecting Nut

    David, the fact that it is in a holder that wasn't used until many years later, makes me wonder when PCGS certified this coin. Do you have any of the backstory about this coin? It's definitely an interesting coin, but I'm just curious.
     
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  5. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Interesting. I wonder how the PCGS determined it was what they say. Had to have been associated with a proof set or something, wouldn't it?
     
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  6. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Philly didn't make the proof sets in 2001. San Fran did!
     
  7. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Good catch, so how did they determine it was a mint coated coin?
     
  8. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    There were numerous articles written
    (Coin World & on-line) about these
    Experimental Rinse Dollars.

    The vast majority of them (thousands)
    were certified by the Services around
    2001/2002, and have been 'slabbed'
    since then, so the newer holder/tag doesn't
    mean anything, except it was a later submission.
     
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  9. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I know there were concerns about a rinse that caused the coins issued in 2000 to turn a "puke-colored" greenish-brown. So, is this coin posted by David supposed to be a failed experimental attempt? I would have thought that PCGS could have been a bit more precise in the description.
     
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  10. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    How and why is this classified as a mint error coin?
     
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  11. John Burgess

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  12. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    What I know on these is they SHOULD have a patina, but still a nice luster under it, they should have tarnished toned edges like unrinsed sac dollars do and it should be a different color than obverse and reverse because the collar and ejection should have destroyed the experimental rinse on the edge of the coin also, kind of the opposite of a annealing error diagnosis for the edge though, but similar appearance for the obverse and reverse, it should be off color, but still nice luster to it, unlike the environmental damaged ones that have seen circulation.

    I wish the pictures were better but I know it's hard through the slab.

    heres a trueview of one I managed to pull up on PCGS site, this isn't mine, i just did some digging on PCGS, it's a 2000P and MS64, but it's not the same as the cruddy ones we always find by a long shot.

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  13. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I think the coloring of the coin was the determining of it being identified as a mint error. It should never have been released but a lot of them were. Obviously it’s never been circulated.
     
  14. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    As an aside...Has anyone noticed a change (more or less) in the occurrence of milk spots common to U.S. Mint silver pieces, lately? I've read where milk spots could be residue from a "rinse".
     
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  15. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Same type color as mine, just not as deeply colored.
     
  16. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    I wish they made dollar coins with the pre-1982 copper cent composition. Lustrous red examples would be worth collecting.
     
  17. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I haven’t but that because I order very little from the Mint, even less if it contains silver.
     
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  18. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    I don't see how these "experimental" pieces can be called "errors". Did the Mint not intend to test a new rinse on these pieces?
     
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