My last post here and apology for my previous one...

Clients come after the laws and lawyers come at all times in the process, often creating the laws (via political action) and the clients for job security.

 

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So you're a social worker? Individuals have rights, and IP is a property right, just as is your home. Strictly-speaking, it's not society can't infringe or trespass, it's that same is restrained under law and public policy.

 

And just as certain necessary property right confiscations are abused in the misuse of eminent domain, so is the intellectual property protections.

Real property confiscations for the good of the society also include appropriate use of tax sales, prescriptive rights for easements and adverse possession for abandoned property. Each should be used as needed ONLY and limited to prevent corruption.

But I think we should get back to the issues affecting "fair use" of information produced by numismatists for distribution through the various modern media in order to avoid conflict with Board Rules. It's a slippery slope.

 

Jack is doing great work. Counterfeiting is big business and so counterfeiters could theoretically target people like Jack who are a little more "visible" and making their illegal business more difficult. Jack is right to be cautious on copyright infringement but with what Doug posted, should be able to protect himself and still post his unique work.

 

Most of the trouble makers are newbies, that come here, and insist that they have some rare error coin, despite being told politely that their coin is just pocket change. Those spam posts create a lot of nonsensical arguments. Most people here are positive, constructive, and willing to both teach, and learn.

 

You sound like you're trying to talk him out of jumping off some bridge. Cool down. He needs to powder-off because can't get in line and play by the law, that's his business. You're traumatized because we're not "user friendly," that's your business, we can't do nothing about it.

 

Jack, you’re overreacting. But yes, it’s very off-putting when someone ignores your good content and calls you out for something that (let’s be serious), no one would do anything about, legally.

 

@Kentucky "Can't you just say 50 Ave Dougs and be forgiven
@GDJMSP
No need for that either. He was forgiven from the get-go.

...so a half-dozen Hail-Dougs would suffice

 

Are you a copy-write attorney? You seem perfectly satisfied with copy-write abuse. I'm not saying eliminate proper use, just reign in the attacks on fair use and reform the length of protections from the 18th century standards to 21st century standards.

I'm getting tired of companies copy-writting client and customer generated work. They act like they're employees.

How about, no profit; no damage; no suit.

 

Stay a spell.

 

One Ave Doug should be sufficient.

 

only if you REALLY mean it...

 

Hear, hear.

 

Agreed and understood.

 

And if the counterfeiters put an end this hobby, the magazines are out of business. Even PCGS has seen counterfeiting, especially from China, as a major threat. The magazine guys should be at the forefront of combating this problem instead of worrying about who is spreading the word to stop it.

Forums like this have a hell of lot more readers than theses magazines. I get "Coin World," "COINage," "The Numismatist" and "Penny-wise." Maybe these guys should put a moratorium on getting uptight about getting the message out there about counterfeits.

If @Jack D. Young is now unable to post his information here about the latest counterfeits, we have lost an important warrior in the war against fakes. If the editors these magazines think they are doing the hobby any favors, shame on them!

Maybe Jack should give up submitting articles to these short sighted editors and post on the Internet instead. Having written a few articles and having heard from a few authors, these guys don't pay that much anyway.

 

Thanks Doug. I have never thought of how deep this issue goes. This makes me think that it's not legal to post any image you don't own but we see it all the time on forums. Someone post it and others save it. They post it and others save it. Over time there is no way to know who actually owns the rights.
Don't guess it matters, it is still breaking the law.

 

I’ve been following this and I too was a little upset about worrying about the copyright thing as I’ve thought back in the past, on occasion , I have posted a small clipping here or there from an article. I was under the impression a small excerpt was ok as long as you linked to the article.
In the internet age, they’re fighting an uphill battle trying to police all this. One I think they will lose eventually.
I thought the guy was ok posting his own content and it wasn’t the entire article. But I appreciate Dougs post explaining this in detail. The explanation was appreciated and their view point is understood. They certainly have a vested interest. I would think at times it would be good advertisement for them seeing an article here once in a while. Oh well.

 

In an effort to continue to get the word out on these threatening counterfeits I made a mistake here. The COINage article was written by a friend from info I provided, as well as images, my authentication process and a couple of my 1-page attribution sheets which I provided willingly for the cause.

I was excited to see the end result and paid for an on-line subscription to review and subsequently a hard copy of the magazine itself.

Instead of sharing the images from the actual article I could have mentioned it and used my own images in my post here.

My written articles are mine, but I do submit them to other venues like Coin Week; I understand going forward to use only my images and info and a link to the "published" one.

Just a note, when notified of my error I was one who reported my own post to be sure...

 

Really not sure what your point is or how it applies to this situation.

I find this to be very "user friendly" and see no changes required here.