Should I send 1936 matte proof cent for regrading by ANACS or grading by NGC?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Revello, May 23, 2021.

  1. gmarguli

    gmarguli Slightly Evil™

    I believe that your problem isn't the color itself, but the inconsistency of that color. If you look at the large PCGS pic, you see a lot of white spots mixed in with red (and it extends on to the rim). That's not normal. You coin has been dipped.

    A light dip should remove the inconsistent red and give you a better chance to get it in a problem free slab.
     
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  3. Revello

    Revello Well-Known Member

    My bad. I was not accurate referring to the 1936 cent as "matte" proof -- satin finish is what I should have said.
     
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  4. Revello

    Revello Well-Known Member

    I don't collect buffalo nickels, so I'll probably send it off for auction as is in its current holder. It was part of a 1936 proof set I purchased.
     
  5. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    What is the difference on the 1913 variety 1 between the proof and the business strike? PhotoEditor_20191128_083256446~2.jpg
     
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  6. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

    I’ve had NGC call a coined cleaned and PCGS straight grade it. Then PCGS call another coin QC, then NGC straight grade it, then the same coin crossed to PCGS. There are definitely some funny scenarios.
     
  7. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    " PCGS certified it as genuine proof, unc details, but as questionable color."
    Maybe looking for repeat submissions. IMHOP
     
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  8. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    The Proofs are a bit sharper with more detail on the buffalo's cape and coat. The experts also claim that "LIBERTY" is sharper, but I have not found that to be reliable.
     
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  9. capthank

    capthank Well-Known Member

     
  10. DM1

    DM1 Active Member

    To my (non-expert) eyes, it looks like a woody.
     
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  11. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    A lot of money
     
  12. Mac McDonald

    Mac McDonald Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't accept any "details" when it's so questionable. You could send it back raw (cracked out) to PCGS and on a given day get your grade. If you send it to NGC I'd send it raw...maybe even raw back to ANACS. And keep sending it...depends on how bad you want it and what it's worth to you. Sometimes, some things are worth more that common sense (and "cent$"...the market). You don't have to reveal everything.
     
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  13. Revello

    Revello Well-Known Member

    Thanks to all for your opinions and recommendations. I really do appreciate them. And, my deepest apologies for the screw up reference to "1936 matte proof" -- no matte proofs for 1936, only satin or brilliant. Also, please don't think I have any animosity towards PCGS. I see examples posted by others and on YouTube where NGC labelled coin as details but PCGS subsequently graded the coin as non-details. It hasn't happened to me yet, but never say never. I will crack the coin out, and send it to NGC, and post results on this thread.
     
  14. Revello

    Revello Well-Known Member

    Epilogue: Sent the 1936 satin proof Lincoln cent in PCGS holder to NGC for reholder. NGC reholdered the coin as a Proof 63 Red Brown. In a nutshell, the coin went from ANACS Proof 65 red, to PCGS Details Questionable Color, to finally NGC Proof 63 Red Brown. Was hoping it would come back as Proof 64 or 65 Red, even though I agree with NGC's Red Brown classification. I think it's at least Proof 64. I'll let the coin rest a bit, lol, in its new holder, and decide later on whether to send it again to PCGS, just for grins/curiosity.
     
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