Peace Dollar Date Doubled Onto Rim

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  1. James R

    James R Active Member

    Am I looking at this wrong? 9EC80A7E-D974-41D9-95E9-4CEBA1629FA0.png
     

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  3. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Please explain how that is possible.
     
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  4. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Wow , Okay . Can we get a better Pic if the Obverse so we can see what's going on ?;)
     
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  5. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    A little reading and research into creation of dies and the minting process is in order. If it was possible for it to be a number wouldn't it be reasonable to expect it would at least be the same font and size? And if it were part of the die, where are the thousands of other coins that would have been struck with said die?
     
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  6. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    We are going to need much better pictures than these to see what happening, also we'd need the reverse to identify the mint of manufacture. So far all we know it's a 1922 and bad lighting.
    It's likely some sort of after minting damage just because nobody's identified a VAM like this over the last 100 years though, that's just being realistic.
     
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  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It is PMD! The coin took a hit on the rim by something. Who knows what! It isn't even the same size as the font used for the date.
     
  8. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Yep, definitely PMD.
     
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  9. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    If you look closely you can see displaced metal around most of the hole. It’s damage.
     
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  10. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    While it is an interesting anomaly, I rather am of the opinion that once you put any coin under this level of magnification, you can see most anything you want to see.
     
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  11. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Randy is right, an interesting anomaly nothing more. The striation also looks like a anomaly in my opinion. Good luck
     
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  12. Cliff Reuter

    Cliff Reuter Well-Known Member

    A counter clash can produce a repetition of devices from the same side.

    Also, Chinese counterfeits are a great source of odd "errors and varieties". I have some Peace dollars with a strong obverse "clash".
     
  13. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    A counter clash wont change the font size of repeated date devices
     
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  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I don't think so. The portion of the 2nd 9 in the field, and the 2 on the rim - both are raised metal, and that can't happen from post mint damage. The raised metal had to occur during the strike.

    No, I think what we're looking at here is a counterfeit coin deliberately minted this way so as to fool some collector into buying it.
     
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  15. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    "You may be right! I may be crazy!"
     
  16. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    Are you sure it's raised? From the photos I for one can't tell for sure.
     
  17. The Gold Monger

    The Gold Monger New Member

    If you look at the obverse, it says...

    "Paul is dead"!
     
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  18. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    to me it looks like a sideways D, but not the GoD D, or the mintmark D. just some random D from who knows where it came from.
     
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