1900 Liberty nickel...What planchet?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by nightowl, Nov 17, 2009.

  1. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    can't happen.

    off metal coins canonly be small to larger size.

    ie, nickel struck on cent planchet. Cent on a dime oaky.
    Quarter struck on cent, nickel, dime planchets.

    never have a dime on a quarter, cent or nickel planchets.
    never a nickel on a quarter planchet.
     
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  3. nightowl

    nightowl Member

    Can't happen unless the wrong material were rolled and punched.

    You're assuming that they got the planchets material and diameter right every time. Logic says that they wouldn't make that kind of an error and not catch it, but it's certainly possible (not probable) for it to happen.

    Nightowl
     
  4. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    That still wouldn't fit. Nickel strip run through the cent blanking press would result in planchets that weigh 4.02 grams. Not if you rolled the nickel strip to cent thickness and then blanked it with cent punches that would do it. But I think we are asking for too many errors happening for that to happen.

    Do you have any information on what countries the Scovill mint was making planchets for in 1902? (The US mint wasn't striking coins for anyone else at the time so it would have had to have been a private contract and one of the planchets got into the deliveries to the mint) And since they weren't supplying the mint with planchets in 1884 and hadn't since 1877 that still doesn't explain the 1884 off metal coin.
     
  5. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter


    Don't get me wrong, I agree that it's a stretch... but you have to admit that it is plausible. This coin and others similar are a mystery wrapped in a conundrum...I'm just putting one theory on the table.
     
  6. nightowl

    nightowl Member

    Could have been some mischevious mint employees who had traveled to Nicaragua throwing some foreign coins in the dies....but there's never any evidence of an understrike.

    Nightowl
     
  7. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    The PA. Mint made planchets for Venezuela in 1876 and the coins were dated 1876 & 1887.

    The presence of foreign coin planchets in the U.S. Mints resulted in many issues (ie; 1900 Liberty Nickel ) being struck in odd metals and odd sizes. Discoveries are to this date, still being made. The U.S. Mint subcontracted with the Scovill MFG Company, to supply foreign planchets.
     
  8. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The venezuela coins were 1876 and 1877 not 1887 and there were no mint contracts for coins or planchets for foreign coins that would have resulted in foreign planchets being in the mint in 1884, and none of the mint contracts in the late 1890's to 1902 era would have resulted in planchets like those these V nickels are struck on. So if they came for the CT manufacturer they would have had to have been the result of a private contract between Scovill and the foreign country that had nothing to do with the US Mint and the planchets should never have been in the Mint nand would have had to get there by being accidently mixed in with US cent and nickel planchets being made for the mint by Scovill.

    So are there any records of any private contracts for coins or planchets being made for foreign countryies by Scovil?

    Another and probably more likely possibility is that the planchet was not for a foreign coin at all but was for a private token since Scovil made a lot of private tokens.
     
  9. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    Typo. I meant it to be 1876 and 1877.
     
  10. ramm6

    ramm6 Junior Member

    review the redbook on manufacturing.i think it is a thin sheet of metal,probably near the end of the sheet.
     
  11. nightowl

    nightowl Member

    That wouldn't account for the planchet not filling the coining chamber. It's of substantially smaller diameter as well as being thin.

    Nightowl
     
  12. CashDude

    CashDude Member

    Bump for updates??
     
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