2012-D Jefferson - Cud? Or just poor eyesight?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by CygnusCC, May 1, 2021.

  1. CygnusCC

    CygnusCC Roping the Learns Supporter

    I can't quite figure out if this is a cud or just a damaged coin. There seems to be a blob on the stairs to the right, but I can't get any closer with the cheap microscope. Is this a mini-cud?

    Thanks for any opinions!
    2012_nickel_die_crack_close_up.jpg 2012_nickel_die_crack_back.jpg
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Looks like a hit. Damage IMHO

    FYI a Cud is a Die Break that is found on the Rim od a coin and extends into the field.

    Here is an example from my collection
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  4. CygnusCC

    CygnusCC Roping the Learns Supporter

    Oh, interesting. I'll have to study more - thanks

    Impressive blob on that nickel!
     
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  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Thanks.. The blob is not added material. It is metal that flowed into the Missing piece from the Die that broke away. That is sometimes what new collectors think when they begin collectiong errors. Same thing for IDB's.. Interior Die Breaks and Die Chips. They are 'Blobs' that form when the metal goes into the missing piece when the blank planchet is struck by the defective die.
     
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  6. MeowtheKitty

    MeowtheKitty Well-Known Member

    That looks like a cud on top of a cud.
     
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  7. CygnusCC

    CygnusCC Roping the Learns Supporter

    So if that had not been damage next to the steps it would have been considered an IDB?
     
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  8. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    You may find that some older books called anything like this a cud. The modern terms define them better.
     
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  9. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Not a cud as all cud start on the rim of a coin. The right hand side of the steps took a hit so you’re seeing damage.
     
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  10. CygnusCC

    CygnusCC Roping the Learns Supporter

    Yep, that seems the consensus. Time to spend it. :) Thanks!
     
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  11. John Wright

    John Wright Well-Known Member

    Though I agree that FAR the most prevalent chunk-out-of-die (ie: "cud") occurrences are at the EDGE, chunks sometimes fall out of the interior as well. I classify those too as "cuds". See Samples here. Cud Obv 1797 S-131 2.jpg Cud Rev 1803 S-262 2.jpg
     
  12. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Not a cud but thanks for sharing.
     
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  13. 1865King

    1865King Well-Known Member

    Just damage.
     
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  14. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    Nice cud! I'll have to chew on that one for a while.
     
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  15. CygnusCC

    CygnusCC Roping the Learns Supporter

    Are those your coins, John? Nice finds!
     
  16. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    @John Wright
    I would consider those as Pre-Cuds
     
  17. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    As some others have said, the obverse of the nickel features a "stepped" or multi-level cud that possibly grew over time.
     
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