Can anyone ID these hammered pennies?

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  1. Harry G

    Harry G Well-Known Member

    Hi all!

    Can anyone help me ID these hammered pennies? I know nothing about this area, so would appreciate some help!

    Thanks!

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  3. Matthew Kruse

    Matthew Kruse Young Numismatist

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  4. John Conduitt

    John Conduitt Well-Known Member

    Yes they are English pennies, but you'll need to look very carefully at the details to ID them. The penny hardly changed all the way from Saxon times to Henry VII (700 years), and for some kings you can't tell them apart without a reference.

    Most of yours look like they're of one of the Edwards, although there are 5 of those to consider with coins like this. (I would guess your coins are Edwards I-III). The top middle is Henry III (by the bust style and long cross on the reverse - Henry III introduced the long cross so none are earlier than him).

    Most seem to be from the London mint (CIVITAS LONDON on the reverse).

    To narrow them down further, you'll need to look at the crowns, hair, faces and legend fonts and decorations in detail. A slightly crooked fleur on the crown or a slightly wider stem on an N can make all the difference.

    This website will help with the Edwards:
    https://www.ukdfd.co.uk/pages/edwardian-Pennies/Edwardian Pennies P1.htm

    Edward III Penny, 1344-1351
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    London. 3rd Coinage, Class 2, Reverse I (Spink/Seaby 1544; North 1114).

    This penny can be identified by the bust style, crown, legend (EDWA R ANGL DNS HYB, Edward King of England, Dominus of Ireland), the annulet (ring) stops and the 'Lombardic' Ns (Lombardic capitals are decorative upper-case letters - the letters have serifs etc).

    Bear in mind that what the legend actually says is not always helpful. Few give you the regnal number (so all the Edwards are just 'Edward') and sometimes the name is that of the predecessor (so Henry II, Richard I, John and Henry III are all 'Henricus').
     
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  5. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Neat English coins. You have a great learning process ahead of you, good luck.
     
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  6. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    The middle one on the top row is Henry III (1216-1272), Voided Long Cross, issued 1247-1272; the others all look to be Edward I (1272-1307), from his New Coinage (from 1279). @TheRed and probably some other folks here would be better than me at squinting out the 'classes' of the Edward Is, which date them within a handful of years. ...As a caveat, while the Edward I ones are the first issue of that type, with the faacing portrait and solid long cross, they also tend to be the commonest ones.
     
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