1822 Capped Bust question

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Fabrosee, Apr 28, 2021.

  1. Fabrosee

    Fabrosee New Member

    Hi, I've got an 1822 Capped Bust Half Dollar that has a strange "2" in the date that I cannot find a variety/error of so I thought you all could help.

    This year of half dollar has a 1822/1 strike but what I have does not look like a 2 over a 1. The next year (1823) has some varieties like an "ugly" or "broken" 3 but I cannot find a similar variety for the 1822.

    Has anyone seen a similar 2 on this date or have any insight? 1822CappedBust1.jpg 1822CappedBust2.jpg
    Thank you in advance!
     
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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    It looks almost like the metal was pushed/moved. I see this a lot on copper Lincoln cents but I've not seen it on a silver coin before.
     
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  4. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    I have to agree with you. Metal shoved down and more age and wear not showing it fresh like when it happened.
     
  5. Fabrosee

    Fabrosee New Member

    I will try to get a better picture but if the metal was pushed down then the "pushed off" section would not be attached to the face like it is. I will see if I can get a good picture up that shows how the metal looks to be part of the face where it is. Also, if it did get pushed off, then age and wear would eventually knock it off.
    In any case, I will post a new pic once I can get a close enough pic at the right angle.
     
  6. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I would have suspected a die crack myself. I have seen such things between devices, and do not know why I wouldn't be between parts of a letter. Interested in learning more though.
     
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  7. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    The pushed section would absolutely be attached to the coin. Like I said, I see copper Lincoln cents like this in circulation all the time. Yours looks to be a pretty decent coin. The damage could've happened when it was much younger before being pulled from circulation and added to a collection.
     
  8. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Sorry guys, in this case you are both incorrect. Now, look at the first two and tell us why something pushed into the digit that moved the metal could not be the case here. ;) Anyone else wish to comment?
     
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  9. MIGuy

    MIGuy Well-Known Member

    Insider, tell us pleeeaaase! Rick Stachowski seems to know a lot about this stuff. You might want to check with these guys - Combined Association of Numismatic Error Collectors of America - http://board.conecaonline.org/index.php You can post photos and questions in their forum.
     
  10. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    The answer is way too easy. I already gave a clue! Why not take a guess yourself or @ Rick.
     
    Last edited: Apr 28, 2021
  11. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I think it’s very interesting.
     
  12. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    I'm stumped. If it was a die break, I would think it would have made it into the books, considering how much CBH's have been studied.
    A counterfeit? That's stretching, I know.
     
  13. Fabrosee

    Fabrosee New Member

    I've been staring back and forth from the 1st 2 to the second two....I guess I just don't know enough to see the answer.
     
  14. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Look at the first 2. Look how thin the curve at the top is. Now look at the same spot on the second 2 where the loop is. In my opinion, there is not enough metal to be pushed out and over if the loop is actually damage. The curves are identical with the added loop. It has been already been posted that if this is a variety it should have been recorded before. The first thing I did was to look.
     
  15. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    It seems pointless as some kind of post mint alteration......I guess you need to tell us,
    @Insider, before some of us turn blue!
     
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  16. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

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    Blue already lol. I’d say it’s putty or some sort of added material… someone tried to „improve“ the coin and messed up the last digit?
     
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  17. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    I told you what it is not and how to tell. Otherwise, I need to see the coin.
     
  18. manny9655

    manny9655 Well-Known Member

    Because there would be scrapes or marks of some kind where the metal was pushed from. It looks to me like there are no such marks.
     
  19. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    @Fabrosee Can you post good pictures of both sides of the coin?
     
  20. Fabrosee

    Fabrosee New Member

    Ok, I finally got some better pics to help us out. I for one, am stumped and I want to be sure to give this coin an accurate description and designation. Help an amateur out, fellas!
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  21. Fabrosee

    Fabrosee New Member

    Oh, and here is the other side of the coin WIN_20210503_15_18_56_Pro.jpg WIN_20210503_15_19_13_Pro.jpg WIN_20210503_15_19_31_Pro.jpg
     
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