1918s/1917 SLQ - Overdate or Not?

Okay, I purchased a 1918s Standing Liberty Quarter recently, and I'm pretty sure it's a partial overdate - the top of the "7" seems pretty clear at the top of the "8" but it may not grade that way, as these typically have the entire "7" which is visible in the bottom of the "8" but this one doesn't really have that. Here are three photos, first a regular 1918-S, note how round the "8" is at the top, like the "9", then an NGC certified overdate that's currently for sale on eBay, and finally the one I bought. Opinions? It was only the price of a regular 18-S, so it's a win either way, as I like the coin.

 

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Sorry but I don't think it is the overdate. I think if it was, the bottom circle of the 8 would be cut off a little bit, like in the 2nd picture.

Its still a really nice coin though!

 

Yes, like Matthew said. That would mean your “partial” is a different die, it can’t be the 8/7 die.

 

Nope here's the 1918/7.

 

Great point, it may be that there was a second 1917s die that they used for some, including this one, that they did a better job of filing the bottom of the "7" off of. I've noticed 3 primary varieties of 1918-S quarters, the standard "round" 8, the rare 17 overdate, and this one, with the top of the 7 and the resulting flat top "8" like the recognized overdate, with the same downward turn on the top right, but without the shaft of the "7" apparent in the "8" below. In any case, it only cost about $80 and it's a nice coin, and I find it all very interesting.

 

Yep, without that bar through the lower loop, it's just pareidolia. Which, with the funky numerals in this era's coinage, gets lots of fuel.

 

I don't know .
I think you guys might be wrong .

Looks like the overdate to me .
Just a later die state ..

Look at this image .
Sure looks like it to me .

 

But Rick, the bottom hole of the 8 IS filled with the slanted part of a 7 , while his has a rounded bottom hole (no slanted 7) as I saw in bottom photo of his 1st post. Jim

 

I can also see the die crack running through " Trust " .
http://varietyvista.com/08 Standing Liberty Quarters/1918SDDO001.htm

 

How could the " 8 " look so twisted .
Either it took a hit, or it's the over-date .

 

Rick, his is the 3rd photo down in his 1st post. The second he says is a NCG certified. Jim

 

I took the middle picture from post 1, cropped the date .
Then I took the image from post 4, and put the two together .

 

Have you checked any of the markers .
According to wexler site, there should be some die clashes to look for

Die Markers: Obverse: A die clash mark of the E in EPU protrudes from the right knee. A die clash mark of the vertical bar of the E in AMERICA can be found below the clash mark at the knee. Die clash marks can be found in the lower right folds of the gown to the left of the 3rd and 4th stars from the bottom. A die clash mark of the eagle’s left wing runs from NW to SE through the first T in TRUST. Reverse: A clash of the right leg runs through the M in AMERICA and to the left of the E in EPU. A clash of the shield can be found above the LLAR in DOLLAR. A clash of the right arm can be found above the eagle’s tail feathers.

 

No I haven't yet, but I certainly will, thank you very much for the info!

 

Rick, you have the images mixed up. The two you posted here are both the real deal. The op's is not a match to them.

 

One of those photos is the OP coin

 

We don’t know it’s that anymore than we know it’s a second overdated 1917-S die they just did a better cover-up job on, as @MIGuy is theorizing. He’s as “right” as you are, in other words, at least at this point.

And here’s another thing. I just did some checking. It happens the 1918-S has the highest mintage of all S-mint SLQs. The 8/7 overdate is evidence the Mint had to repurpose at least one 1917-S die so as to fulfill that 1918-S mintage. Looking at it like that, there well could be a second overdate, even more. Or, I wouldn’t be calling this “pareidolia,” just yet...

 

Ok that all make sense now .
My bad ....