How do I clean the dirt and scum from this letter?

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  1. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    I've got a VF token covered with dirt and scum. Much of it is in the recesses of the letters and denticles. How do I clean it? I've been told NOT to brush it.

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  3. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    High-powered air ??
     
  4. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Good long acetone soak and a toothpick would be my weapons of war.
     
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  5. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    I dunno, have you tried Olive Oil ? Use Tootpick to lightly remove dirt . Letter ?
     
  6. YoloBagels

    YoloBagels Well-Known Member

    Use this until you don't see the dirt anymore.

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    But seriously, @Randy Abercrombie has the best approach IMO
     
  7. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Depends what it is. My first thing is always 24 hours in distilled water and analyze it again
     
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  8. GH#75

    GH#75 Trying to get 8 hours of sleep in 4. . .

    Looks like a doubled letter as well. I agree with Randy on cleaning. The wood on the toothpick isnt hard enough to scratch metal.
     
  9. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    What is it and what is the base metal? A full photo would help.
     
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  10. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    I too have used a toothpick.
    Usually it's an improvement, but close examination afterwards will probably catch that it's been messed with though. (Maybe I'm just not good enough.)
    Very interested to learn on this....
     
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  11. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    It is a token and it sure looks like copper or bronze to me.
     
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  12. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I would NOT do olive oil. might darken the coin.

    Start easy. Distilled water for a while and see if it soaks in to loosen it up. A friend who cleans much more than me swears by dried rose thorns. Will not scratch metal, but much harder tip to dig stuff out.
     
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  13. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    medoraman, posted: "I would NOT do olive oil. might darken the coin."

    :confused: Any copper, CN, or bronze coin I've soaked in olive oil got brighter. Do you have a coin that got darker we could see?
     
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  14. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    It depends on the metal. I have had ancients get lighter, but I have had them get darker. Point being you never know how the reaction with the light acid might occur. That is why I walked away from olive oil a long time ago. Distilled water and manual removal is all I do, and treat for BD. Anything else is beyond me right now and I leave alone.
     
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  15. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    I agree with some of the other posts - Steel Wool. :dead:

    Just kidding. As others have mentioned, soak in distilled water, the try a rose thorn or toothpick (When I messed with uncleaned ancients, I used to soak the toothpick to soften it even further). If that doesn't work, go to acetone.

    However, from the looks of your coin, I would be worried about finding lighter toning under that stuff. This may be a "damned if you do and damned if you don't" situation
     
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  16. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Seems like that would be a prime candidate for ultrasonic cleaning. But I'm pretty sure you've forgotten a lot more about coin conservation than I've ever learned, so I'm mostly here to listen, not to talk.
     
  17. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    From the part of the piece that I can see it looks like the entire token needs to be cleaned. I soak some of mine in 40 volume hydrogen peroxide, acetone or distilled water. I would start with distilled water. There are almost as many options as there are collectors. Alcohol and a soft toothbrush could do it.
     
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  18. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I have used a small bamboo skewer with tip soaked in water for several minutes a few times. Rather these than hard points like thorns, bamboo has xylem ( water ducts ) throughout the plant , so it acts like an old fashion ink pen , dip and load and gently use. The tip point can be cut away with a sharp razor knife. Oriental owned 99 cent stores usually have them. Be gentle and take the time. Don't tell PCGS. Jim

    p.s. it works with acetone also.
     
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  19. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    They are hard enough to scratch a coin.

    Those can scratch a coin too.

    You can scratch a coin with just about anything because it isn't a question of something being hard enough. It's a question of the coin metal being fragile enough. That's why if you wipe a coin with a soft cotton cloth it always leaves wipe marks behind. And cotton cloth is way, way, softer than toothpicks and rose thorns. Cotton cloth is also perfectly capable of polishing a coin, and polishing is nothing more than a series of scratches. For that matter you can polish any metal with a soft cotton cloth, and I don't care how hard the metal is. There is no metal that cannot be polished. And if it can be polished it IS being scratched !
     
  20. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The coin is what it is. I might try a few solutions. Distilled water first. followed by one or both of Acetone, Xylene. Rolling a q tip on the surface. I have in the past used a rose thorn, but I have also scratched the patina and revealed a fresh copper/bronze surface.

    Some deposits can be loosened by long soaks in olive oil, just that light loosening can help the distilled water, acetone, or xylene work better.
     
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  21. halfcent1793

    halfcent1793 Well-Known Member

    In the copper world, people recommend a soft rose thorn and patience.
     
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