Variety Vista concerns

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Jhnby1017, Apr 25, 2021.

  1. Jhnby1017

    Jhnby1017 Member

    I have diligently been looking at a large number of US Coins, all denominations from a fantastic source I found. Just finishing up my 4th batch from this lady. Each batch is $500 - $800 in all denominations. I have found many coins that "may be errors" but none of any real value. Things like floating roofs on cents, out of round, filled dies, missing dates or names from grease, etc.

    I just finished doing Jefferson nickels so posting this page from Variety Vista of DDR.

    On most pages of any coins I, for the life of me, don't see a DDO or DDR from most of the pictures V. V. post. I am sure that these anomalies on these coins are extremely slight and probably not worth much. So what good is having this type of listing if you can't see the defects???? .. be nice to this old man... lol Variety Vista Jeff Nickel ddr page.jpg
     
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  3. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

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    ...it’s not just VV, Wexler lists very difficult to see attributes as well. The bottom line is: They are there or they wouldn’t be listed. Some of them are very slight and hard to see. On modern “extra-thickness” varieties, you almost have to screw your eyeballs in backwards to pick up the difference. ...and sometimes it is the picture that’s bad.

    What will help is sticking to a good routine...loupe the coin, scope the coin, illuminate from different angles...do all your normal tasks to satisfy yourself that you have checked it out completely and if you miss a minor one, no big deal. You won’t miss a big one...jmho...Spark
     
  4. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC Supporter

    You can see them, it's just tracking die lifetime and history through minute details of wear, polish, etc. The ones worth looking for are usually labeled as such.

    Check out what the TPGs certify and that will give you a general idea of the good stuffs.
     
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  5. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    For some, it's more obvious...knowing what to look for helps setoff differences. But to your point, some are rather insignificant. The term 'minor' DDO/DDR is sometimes used...and that might be liberally put. As Evan notes, you can trim down your variety lists for each denomination using various resources (TPG listings, The Cherrypickers Handbook, Red Book, various sites on the internet). Normally, there are top 100 lists of this and that for you to reference.

    But a fair warning - some lists are woefully incomplete, so combining a few resources to compile a listing for yourself may be appropriate for the task you have undertaken. Sticking to Red Book for instance will sell you short, especially amongst Lincoln Cents. For Nickels, I trust Brian's Variety Coins listings for the vital few amongst the trivial many.
     
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  6. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I see split serifs on E PLURIBUS UNUM.
     
  7. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

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    ...it’s not just VV, Wexler lists very difficult to see attributes as well. The bottom line is: They are there or they wouldn’t be listed. Some of them are very slight and hard to see. On modern “extra-thickness” varieties, you almost have to screw your eyeballs in backwards to pick up the difference. ...and sometimes it is the picture that’s bad.

    What will help is sticking to a good routine...loupe the coin, scope the coin, illuminate from different angles...do all your normal tasks to satisfy yourself that you have checked it out completely and if you miss a minor one, no big deal. You won’t miss a big one...jmho...Spark
     
  8. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC Supporter

    *best answer*
     
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  9. Beardigger

    Beardigger Well-Known Member

    @Jhnby1017 I Agree! I have a hard time seeing ANYTHING abnormal on those pictures. I guess it takes patience and practice! In 2 years I have yet to find a DDO or DDR. Don't know that I will ever "get it".
     
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  10. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    There you go, @Jhnby1017. Let me just put it this way. All you need to start an asylum is an empty room and the right kind of people...
     
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  11. Jhnby1017

    Jhnby1017 Member

    You guys are outrageously on the ball and you have "always" led me down the right path. Thanks to all for your many insights and suggestions. Greatly appreciate you can be sure !
     
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  12. cpm9ball

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    Why don't you just click on "Best Answer" on Sparky's post #5 if you think it is. I'm sure he would appreciate it since it would be his first one. Go ahead! Click on "Best Answer" and "turn on the lights".:)
     
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  13. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    If I have to look that hard for a doubled die, forget it! I'd rather spend my time searching Mint bags for MS68's.
     
  14. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC Supporter

    I use it frequently. I don’t know if it tells them I marked it as best answer.. so I made sure!
     
  15. cpm9ball

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    Yes, he will get an "Alert" for it. I did on mine.
     
  16. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    It should say best answer now ...
     
  17. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    ...it does and thank you. I am humbled. I don’t post to cast for likes or best answers...but just having members agree is enough...thank you everyone...Spark
     
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  18. SamCoin

    SamCoin Active Member

    Appears to be a very minor Class II DDR. I probably wouldn't waste time looking for this particular variety unless it were a by-catch of looking for more major varieties on the same devices of the same date, but useful to have a record of its existence.
     
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