Thunderbolts!

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  1. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Among the many attributes of Jupiter/Zeus, such as an eagle, scepter, or statue of Victory, was the thunderbolt. That's because Zeus was the god of thunder!



    Indeed, Jupiter/Zeus was the premier god in the Greco-Roman pantheon. He is often portrayed in ancient art holding thunderbolts, such as on this 2nd century Roman wellhead, the Moncloa Puteal, now in the National Archaeological Museum in Madrid.

    Jupiter and thunderbolt Puteal_de_la_Moncloa_(M.A.N._Madrid)_03.jpg


    Unsurprisingly, then, thunderbolts appear often on Greek and Roman coins, often in Jupiter/Zeus' grasp, sometimes in the talons of his eagle, sometimes as a design element on its own, and sometimes as a control mark on the obverse or reverse.

    This little article makes no attempt at completeness. Rather, it's an overview of the subject. Let's see your thunderbolts!!

    In Jupiter's grasp:

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    Gordian III, AD 238-244.
    Roman AR antoninianus, 3.62 g, 21.6 mm, 5 h.
    Rome mint, 2nd officina, 3rd emission, AD 241-243.
    Obv: IMP GORDIANVS PIVS FEL AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust, right.
    Rev: IOVI STATORI, Jupiter standing facing, head right, holding scepter and thunderbolt.
    Refs: RIC 84; Cohen 109; RCV 8615; Hunter 51.

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    Gallienus, AD 253-268.
    Roman billon antoninianus, 3.10 g, 20.1 mm, 6 h.
    Rome, AD 261.
    Obv: IMP GALLIENVS AVG, radiate and cuirassed bust, right.
    Rev: IOVI VLTORI, Jupiter standing, head right, holding lightning bolt in right hand, cloak flying right; S in left field.
    Refs: RIC 220F; Göbl 383x; RCV 10247; Cohen 404 var.


    In the grasp of Jupiter/Zeus' eagle:

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    Ptolemy V Epiphanes, 205 BC-180 BC
    Greek Æ hemidrachm, 18.84 g; 28.4 mm
    Alexandria, ca. 197-183/2 BC
    Obv: Corn-wreathed head of Isis, right
    Rev: ΠΤΟΛΕΜΑΙΟΥ ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ, eagle standing on winged thunderbolt, left
    Refs: Svoronos 1235; Sear Greek 7880; BMCG 6.94,72; SNG VIII (Hart) 1175; Forrer

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    Titus as Caesar, AD 69-79.
    Roman AR Denarius, 3.27 g, 18.5 mm, 6 h.
    Rome, AD 76.
    Obv: T CAESAR IMP VESPASIAN, laureate head right.
    Rev: COS V, Eagle standing front on garlanded altar, thunderbolt in claws, wings open, head left.
    Refs: RIC.191a; RIC2.861; BMCRE 191; CBN 166; RSC.59a; RCV 2438.

    Thunderbolts as a design element:

    Faustina Jr Olba thunderbolt NSB.jpg
    Faustina II, AD 147-175.
    Roman provincial Æ 23 mm, 9.0 g.
    Cilicia, Olba, c. AD 158-165.
    Obv: ΦΑVCΤΙΝΑ CЄΒΑCΤΗ, draped bust of Faustina, right, wearing stephane.
    Rev: ΟΛΒЄ-ΩΝ, winged thunderbolt.
    Refs: RPC IV.3, 5828 (temporary); BMC 21.125,25; SNG von Aulock 5795; SNG Levante 657.
    Notes: Obverse die-match to SNG von Aulock and SNG Levante specimens.

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    Hadrian, AD 117-138.
    Roman orichalcum semis, 4.06 g, 18.1 mm, 7 h.
    Rome, AD 121-23.
    Obv: IMP CAESAR TRAIAN HADRIANVS AVG, eagle standing half right, head turned left, wings open but not spread.
    Rev: P M TR P COS III S C, thunderbolt.
    Refs: RIC 625; RIC 2.3, 624; BMC 1279; Cohen 1167; Strack 579; RCV 3704.

    Thunderbolts as control marks:

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    Troas, Alexandria, 3rd-2nd c. BC.
    Greek Æ 13.5 mm, 2.20 g, 11 h.
    Obv: Laureate head of Apollo, right.
    Rev: AΛEΞAN above horse grazing left, monogram beneath, thunderbolt in exergue.
    Refs: Sear 4028; BMC 17.10,18-20; SNG Cop 81-82; SNG von Aulock 7546.

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    Mn. Fonteius C.f., 85 BC.
    Roman AR Denarius, 3.97 g, 21.0 mm, 5h.
    Rome mint.
    Obv: MN. FONTEI C. F, Laureate head of Apollo-Vejovis right; thunderbolt below; Roma monogram below chin.
    Rev: Infant Genius seated right on goat; pilei of the Dioscuri above; below, filleted thyrsus right; all within wreath.
    Refs: Crawford 353/1a; Sydenham 724; Fonteia 9; BMCRR 2476; RCV 271; Varesi 290.

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    Philip II of Macedon.
    Æ Unit, 6.30 g, 18.6 mm.
    Kingdom of Macedon, uncertain mint.
    Obv: Diademed head of Apollo, r.
    Rev: ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟΥ, youth on horseback r.; thunderbolt below.
    Refs: Bellinger 43; SNG ANS 883.
     
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  3. ArtDeco

    ArtDeco Well-Known Member

    My coin of Domitian with Minerva holding a thunderbolt in right hand.

    RIC II-1 580
    Rome Mint
    19.5mm
    3.26 g.

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  4. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Here are my two favorite thunderbolts!

    Claudius II. Holding the t-bolt.
    Claudius II RIC 54 (2020_11_18 03_38_31 UTC).JPG

    Antoninus Pius. Big bolt as the reverse element.
    Antoninus Pius AE26 Koinon Macedonia.JPG

    Curiously, this stylized thunderbolt shows up in a very similar form in India and Tibet as the vajra, or dorje, respectively.
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  5. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    P1150564.JPG Almost no Ptolemy coin without a thunderbolt:

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    Pallas Athena with thunderbolt

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  6. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    BaBoom!!! Fantastic thread idea aaand excellent coins!:woot::wideyed::snaphappy:
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  7. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Commodus:

    Zeus

    Mint of Alexandria, Egypt.

    Commodus (180-192. A.D.)

    Type: Billon Tetradrachm, 25mm, 11.06 grams

    Obverse: M AVΡ KOMMO ANTΩNINOC CE, Laureate bust of Commodus right

    Reverse: VΠAT OCTOΔ, Zeus seated left, holding scepter and thunderbolt, K theta in field

    Reference: Emmett 2567

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  8. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Here is a Probus I am working on that has Mint Mark R Thunderbolt Z.
    Number 89 Probus R Thunderbolt Z.jpg
     
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  9. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    Sound of the drums
    Beating in my heart
    The thunder of guns
    Tore me apart
    You've been
    Thunderstruck
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    19.9 mm 2.38 g
    Postumus (260-269 A.D.)
    Billon Antoninianus
    Colonia Agrippina (Cologne, Germany) mint, (ca. 260-61 A.D.)
    Obv: IMP C POSTVMVS P F AVG, radiate, draped &cuirassed bust of Postumus right
    Rev: IOVI VICTORI, Jupiter walking right, hurling a thunderbolt
    RIC 311

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    Hadrian AD 117-138. Rome Quadrans Æ 18 mm., 2,52 g.
    Date Range: AD 121 - AD 123
    RIC II Hadrian 624
    Æ SEMIS . Rome mint. Struck AD 121-122. Eagle standing facing, head right / Winged thunderbolt.
    Obverse Legend: IMP CAESAR TRAIAN HADRIANVS AVG
    Eagle standing right
    Reverse Legend: P M TR P COS III // S C (in field)
    Type: Thunderbolt

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    Claudius II (Gothicus) AD 268-270. Siscia Billon Antoninianus 20 mm., 3,22 g.
    RIC V Claudius Gothicus 52
    Date Range: AD 268 - AD 270
    Rome not Siscia (described by auction house as Siscia but I'm pretty sure this is Rome)
    Obverse Legend: IMP C CLAVDIVS AVG
    Type: Bust of Claudius Gothicus, radiate, draped, right
    Reverse Legend: IOVI STATORI
    Type: Jupiter, nude, standing right, holding sceptre in right hand and thunderbolt in left hand
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    13.62 g 24.5 mm

    SICILY, Syracuse. Timoleon and the Third Democracy. 344-317 BC. Æ Hemidrachm Timoleontic Symmachy coinage. 1st series, circa 344-339/8 BC. Laureate head of Zeus Eleutherios right / Upright thunderbolt; to right, eagle standing right. Castrizio Series I, 1γ; CNS 72; HGC 2, 1440. Dark green patina, slight roughness.
     
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  10. ancientone

    ancientone Well-Known Member

    I got to see Kiss right before the Rona started. Had tickets for The Stones but they canceled.


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    Ionia, Metropolis. Ares/thunderbolt. AE15.
    Obv: Helmeted head of Ares right.
    Rev: MHTΡOΠO-ΛITΩN above and beneath winged thunderbolt.
    BMC 1

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    Lycia, Phaselis.
    Obv: Prow of galley right.
    Rev: Athena standing right, wielding thunderbolt and aegis.

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    Macedonian Kings, Philip V. Bronze AE17. Aegis shield.
    Macedonian Kingdom, Philip V, 221 - 179 B.C. Bronze AE 17, obverse laureate head of Zeus right; reverse B-A / Φ, Athena Alkidemos standing right, brandishing javelin in right, aegis in left hand with head of medusa, dolphin lower right. SNG Cop 1244-1246var.

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    Phrygia, Peltae. AE14
    Obv: Zeus, head r.
    Rev: PELTHNWN / Winged thunderbolt.
    BMC 2.
     
  11. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Oh, and I think I forgot to mention

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  12. Alwin

    Alwin Well-Known Member

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    LICINIUS I, Follis
    AQS . Aquileia, 317
    3.81 g - 21 mm
    S 15203 - C 83 - RIC VII, 7
    IMP LICINIVS PF AVG, laureate bust right
    IOVI CONSERVATORI, Jupiter standing left, holding sceptre and thunderbolt
     
  13. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    Most of these are rather pathetic as thunderbolts go, but here they are.

    A vertical thunderbolt beneath the horse:

    Philip II Macedon AE19 horseman on reverse.jpg

    Ptolemy VI, eagle on thunderbolt:

    Ptolemy VI tetradrachm jpg version.jpg

    M. Fonteius, thunderbolt below Apollo's neck:

    Fonteius - Infant Genius on Goat jpg version 2.jpg

    Q. Cassius Longinus, eagle on thunderbolt:

    Cassius Longinus - Eagle denarius jpg version.jpg

    Dea Caelestis holding thunderbolt and scepter:

    Septimius Severus, Indulgentia, Dea Caelestis & lion - jpg version.jpg
     
  14. Shea19

    Shea19 Well-Known Member

    This reverse also has a bonus thunderbolt down by the mint mark.

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    Probus, Antoninianus (24 mm, 3.39 g), Rome, 282. Radiate and cuirassed bust r./Rev. Jupiter standing front, head to l., holding thunderbolt in his r. hand and scepter in his l. R(thunderbolt)B. RIC 175
     
  15. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Just worked up this little AE from Selge:

    Selge Pisidia Herakles thunderbolt lot Apr 2021 (0).jpg
    Pisidia, Selge Æ 14
    (c. 200 - 10 B.C.)

    Bare head of Herakles to right; before, K. / CΕΛΓΕ Winged thunderbolt; to right, bow (topped with a griffin head?).
    SNG BN 1998; Paris 764 var.; SNG France 1988; BMC 50; Sear 5412.
    (2.10 grams / 14 mm)
    eBay April 2021 Lot @ $1.24
    Attribution Notes:
    Type with K on obverse rather scarce (three auctions found). Possible die match with: Nomos Obolos Web Auction 17 Lot 334, 20.12.2020, which notes SNG BN 1998 (same dies). In this auction, bow is described as being topped with a griffin head, but I do not see it.
     
  16. cmezner

    cmezner do ut des Supporter

    Don't forget Augustus, who also has thunderbolts :D

    Æ Dupondius, Colonia Romula (Sevilla), struck after 14 AD under Tiberius
    33 x 34 mm, 25.52 g
    RPC I 73; SGI 189; Heiss 393, 2; SNG Copenhagen 423.13.35

    Ob.: COL ROM PERM DIVI AVG Radiate head of Divus Augustus to r.; six-rayed star above, thunderbolt at r.
    Rev.: IVLIA AVGVSTA GENETRIX ORBIS head of Livia to l., set on globe, crescent above

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  17. Broucheion

    Broucheion Well-Known Member

    Hi All,

    Here's a Ptolemaic small bronze with thunderbolt/eagle that's not often seen. Probably after c 198 BCE.

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    ∎ OBV: Thunderbolt with wings. No centration depression. Dotted border.
    ∎ REV: Εagle on thunderbolt facing left, wings closed, [cornucopia on shoulder not visible]; unclear inscription [ΠΤΟΛΕΜΑΙΟΥ ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ]. No centration depresion. Dotted border.
    ∎ Reference: Svoronos 1246, pl xl, 28 [2 listed].
    ∎ Provenanced find: Nea Paphos excavations, Nicolaou (1990), 170-172.

    - Broucheion
     
  18. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    This has to be my favorite thunderbolt. This coin is interesting in that back in 2005 when I bought it no one loved it. It was remaindered and I bought it after the auction had closed. Furthermore this coin is part of a major shift in the propaganda centering on the emperors fitness to rule. Up to the time of Trajan that was simply his ability as a military commander. Under Hadrian and then Pius the notion became that he was emperor because of the wisdom of the gods. In this coin Pius alludes to that theory using the thunderbolt of Jupiter and the legend PROVIDENTIAE DEORVM.
    Sestertius of Antoninus Pius 142 AD Obv. Head right laureate Rv Winged thunderbolt RIC 618 23.63 grms 30 mm Photo by W. Hansen piuss16.png
     
  19. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..some nice thunderbolts!...the only one i can recall off the flip is on this bronze Alexander.. Alexander coins 002.JPG Alexander coins 003.JPG
     
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  20. Ignoramus Maximus

    Ignoramus Maximus Nomen non est omen.

    More thunderbolts:

    Sicily:
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    and nearby Luceria: 173.jpg

    On a good day, even the favourite daughter was allowed to play with the toys.

    More Sicily:
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    Pyrrhos. Athena Promachos holding thunderbolt in her right hand.
     
  21. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Neat coins! I really like the first one. Also, it seems unusual for Athena to hold a t-bolt. Cool!
     
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