Said he got it in change as a child. More than likely not real

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by sweet wheatz, Nov 23, 2009.

  1. Ed Goldman

    Ed Goldman coin collector

    Why doesn't he get it slabbed, and then sell it? You know why, Because it's not real.
     
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  3. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    BINGO! ;)
    The only people who buy these pieces of crap are the people who do not do enough homework to further educate themselves on coins.
    All they have to do is take a few minutes to join Cointalk, and get help, if they wanted it! That would be the easiest route to knowledge there is! But I think more people want to just impulse buy something they know nothing about, then brag about, then have the news broken to them the hard...then they do it all over again :D
     
  4. mastershaketnj

    mastershaketnj Junior Member

    This is the guy selling the busted up 1856 flying eagle cent.

    Hey! This is the guy selling the busted up 1856 Flying Eagle Cent. I am not 150 years old, I got the coin as change when I was 10 in 1991. The only reason I decided to sell it is because my wife is going through major surgery and I could use an extra 200 to 300 dollars. Ebay is quick cash and my wife is in a time of need right now. Ususally I would never dream of selling a single coin from my collection(which are all in much better shape than the 1856 flying eagle cent) but like I said times are tough for me right now. I never slabbed the coin because it is in such bad shape, I kept it as more of a novelty. Since everyone has been calling me a liar and a fake (which is very hurtful because I consider myself an honest person and would never dream of ripping anyone off) I have decided to pull the coin from the auction. I'm going to slab it and now the impulse buyers from ebay can pay a higher price for it once it is slabbed and proven authentic.
    Cheers!
     
  5. dready

    dready Coin Hoarder

    Welcome to the forum Mastershake and Good Luck with your coin. From the pics I can't tell one way or the other if it's authentic. When it comes back from grading send me a PM. I wouldn't mind owning an 1856 FE, no matter the grade. I hope it works out for you................................John
     
  6. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    strange, the bidding has ended, but the item not removed.



    Perhaps someone made him an offer that he couldn't refuse!
     
  7. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    Hey Frank, read two posts above your's. ;)


    Let us know how the slabbing goes Mastershaketnj. It could be to your'e advantage if it slab's authentic.
     
  8. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    ah, I missed that one.

    Thanks, Viper.

    The mystery is solved.

    But---
    Strange that he was able to find this thread amongst the many mysteries of the universe, and the internet.

    Still, I did not notice anyone calling him a liar, just questioning the accuracy of his claims.

    Still, I give him credit for pulling the auction.
    Apparently he does believe that it is an 1856. So, his statements in the auction are, apparently, honest (in his opinion).
     
  9. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Please tell us what it grades it, or even if it is graded as authentic...Prove me wrong.
     
  10. krispy

    krispy krispy

    It's wonderful to put a coin that was questionable to the forum that's listed on a notoriously dubious auction site to an actual person and life story. Do post a follow up here with your graded coin when it comes back. Credit indeed for pulling the auction and good health to your loved one.
     
  11. Ed Goldman

    Ed Goldman coin collector

    Well I e-mailed the guy, and he told me he has had so many conplaints about this coin that he is taking off ebay and having it slabbed. He say's now someone will have to pay a lot more for it.
     
  12. mralexanderb

    mralexanderb Coin Collector

    We shall see!!!! He may never reappear on CoinTalk. Wouldn't that be a surprise.

    Bruce
     
  13. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Nope... :D

    (Not expecting him to return...):rolleyes:
     
  14. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    well, two points:
    1) How the heck did the seller find this thread?
    2) you have to give him credit for removing the sale.
     
  15. bama guy

    bama guy Coin Hoarder

    I believe many people who sell coins read this and other coin threads. All one has to do is google coin forums and it will pop up. I have read somewhere that some of the mint executive read these forums.


    Question... Would a respected TPG slab this coin because of its condition?
     
  16. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    Hopefully it could be slabbed authentic if it is indeed a 56.
     
  17. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    No matter why you get it authenticated and make newer better photos, it will be worth it. Either you find it's not real and protect your integrity or you find it's authentic and do a much better job of getting the best value for your coin at a time you apparently could use every dollar. Good Luck.
     
  18. Phil Ham

    Phil Ham Hamster

    I guess that he pulled the coin from ebay and is going to get it graded and slabbed and sell it for much more. He didn't like being called a liar. He was selling the coin because his wife was having surgery and he apparently needed to pay for it. I must say that it must be a 1856 because it says authentic in the subject line on ebay. Could it be possible that someone would lie on there? Nah!
     
  19. sweet wheatz

    sweet wheatz Senior Member

    I certainly hope it is real, but the pic he sent me would not even open on my computer
     
  20. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    exactly right, conder! those are the diagnostics that will tell the truth about the coin.

    I do seriously wonder, however, if any TPG will certify it because it is such a problem coin. It may be too difficult to verify. If I had a fake and wanted to make it less detectable, this is the kind of damage that would suffice, and if it cannot be definitively authenticated, then they won't slab it at all, not even genuine.
     
  21. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I would not automatically assume that any coin which is not what is advertised is the result of a shady seller. Many times they think what they are selling is real. I would want more than this before I started questioning the integrity of the seller. I would always beware of any coin, even those from my own collection.

    This reminds me of a dealer I know to be honest who showed me his 1877 Indian in XF one time. He asked me what I thought and I had to tell him that I thought the date was too wide for an authentic 1877 and was probably an altered 1897. It was an excellent job and I would have been fooled if the genuine 1877s did not have such a distinctively narrow spacing of the date. Even the pros can be fooled sometimes.

    Now if a pattern of this type of problem appears and the seller insists that his merchandise is authentic, then I would begin to suspect the seller.

    Now with that said, I have the tendency to see too much at times so I would be suspicious of many authentic coins.
     
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