The British Sovereigns from my father's collection.

19 coins in all

 

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Gorgeous! I'm in the market for one of those right now.

 

So you could tell me the difference between the British Royals pictured on them?

 

First two are both Queen Victoria. The first is called "Young head" minted 1871- 1885 and the second "Old head" minted 1893-1901. The third is King George V minted 1911- 1925.

Here's a link for more info regarding mintmarks etc.:

http://goldsovereigns.blogspot.com/

 

Further to the earlier post. The Young Head portrait was used before 1871 as well, but usually with a shield reverse, rather than a St George one. Also, the last the last George V Sovereign was minted in 1932.....

 

Wonderful looking coins :bow:

 

rose these i like
since you posted it here your looking for some sort of vaule
ok i give 150 euro each lol
just kidding
they are worth at this moment 180 pounds bv but they are makeing 200 pounds
on ebay with the present exchange is $325
hope this helps
dave

 

I"ll take care of a cat if you send me one.

 

Are your possums 'cat-friendly'?

As far as the Sovereigns go, they are not worth much over melt?
They are so pretty.

 

which is probably why your dad collected them. You dad has left you a fortune in collectable coins. something that someone would be very happy to have.

Keep these for your future investments along with your kids. they will always be worth something.

not all coins are collected because of value but because someone like them.

they are nice coins and when your dad got them they were probably cheaper as well.

You have a nice collection of things from him. I know you are probably trying to unload some of it to help pay for things but don't get hasty take your time.

When my great grandfather died people were in such a hurry to ransack his stuff that they ended up selling 2 complete sets of depression ware glass for like 25 cents a plate when the whole collection was worth thousands.

rarety is a bigger factor in price along with look. they look great but how many were minted is the key. the other key is the demand and gold content as well. although minting will play a bit of a bigger fator.

 

Excellent examples of sovereigns. have them graded and slabbed it will increase their value. Going rate for sovereigns is around $300 each. however, after grading & slabbing They look MS-65 to me you may get twice that, especially for the young Vicky. Traci :kewl:

 

British sovereigns are one of the most undervalued coins in the world!! Just my opinion of course but some ppl do not know what they have. Good idea to do extensive homework on these rosethe, for certain. Here's an example of a graded sovereign on sale with only a little over a day left. Yes, I know ebay, not a very good place to sell gold sometimes and I am not suggesting that you try at all. That said, it gives you a small hint of the possibilities. Gold sovereigns are tricky, especially the older ones as some years have a different reverse that will make them much more expensive. happy learning to ya'

http://cgi.ebay.com/1893-SOVEREIGN-...emQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2303ef3200

 

Rosethe: I don't know you or your situation, but what you have is simply a stunning thing, a TRUE collection, not merely an assemblage. It's a construct in its own right; an achievement. I'd be loth to break it up unless I was at my last thin dime.

 

Thank you all for your comments. I appreciate it.
Mystery45- I am not trying to unload any part of his collection, not even the silver bars or junk coins. Unfortunately, I don't have any children to pass anything down to either. No chance of that.
I am in complete agreement with Siwash, I would loathe to give up any part of it. I just didn't have any idea of how impressive the collection is.

Since I don't have any heirs (except the cats :goof I'd like to tell you all a little of what I remember about my father and coin collecting and coin hunting.

With your permission....

My father was born in 1914. A young man of the depression. At 13, he sold papers on a street corner, and put the coins on his mother's dresser each night to help support the family. He went to the CCC camps. Then he worked parking cars at Tiger Stadium. A rich man came to have his car parked, offered my father a 'tip', but my father said, "I don't need a tip, I need a job." The man found my father work as a welder. Then the war broke out.
After 4 years at war, he was able to return to his welding job, it was held for him. 32 years later, he retired, in the early 70's. But, in the 60's he started collecting coins. He had me searching rolls for silver dimes and pennies with good dates. If I completed what was on my TV tray, I got to have a Jiffy Pop.
He did 'gentlemen' dealings for coins by mail. All on the honor system.
My mother passed when I was 5, in 1966. It was just him and I.
They came out with these machines called metal detectors. Only two knobs on them. One for volume and one for strength. He took up digging full time. I used to go out with him. I dug the holes. We found endless 'pop tops' and bottle caps. Lots of coins, the occasional piece of silver or ring. All in all, he had jars and jars of silver coins, which he occasionally sold off. He had jars of jewelry and gold. The class rings, we'd try to return to their owners. My hand always out for the potential 'tip' from the grateful owner. :goof:
My dad was greatly effected by the gas shortage of '73 and what he thought would be an economic meltdown. He told me about inflation, and how you'd have to bring a wheel barrel full of paper money to buy a loaf of bread. I lost faith in currency as tender. I always knew that you needed metal in case of disaster. He started investing in gold and reading books on the coming "economic collapse". He told me of a Swiss bank account in which he had Krugerands. :secret:I never understood why that was illegal, until the mid '80's.
He continued to metal detect. I can't tell you of all the things I saw. But I am sure that that first 'generation' of hunters pulled all the best stuff from the ground. He found lots of gold rings, with and without stones, a platinum pin with 32 diamonds, and many other treasures. I think he sold things off for scrap, and bought gold. I remember tubes and tubes of $20 Lib gold pieces. Gradually he sold them too, for his junkets to Vegas. Can't fault a man for working that hard all his life a small bit of pleasure. His pension from the company went 'poof' when the company went under, so his collection was his retirement.
Now all that is left is that tube with 21 $20 gold coins in it. which I am grateful to have, along with the other pieces in the collection. I remember going to coin shows and shops too. I never had a great interest, I was more into semi precious stones and my rock tumbler.

I am, at the same time, proud of what I learned from him and the treasure he left to me, and ashamed at what a financial mess I am in (with the divorce :crying only 8 years after he passed. I think I should have done better.

Thanks for listening to Jim's story. An average guy, who apparently knew what to pick. :kewl:

 

Very nice story! I've been following your threads and must say, you have a gold mine, literally!

At least 5 figures, if genuine, and possibly more. This is a wonderful opportunity for you, in a troubled time, to learn about these wonderful coins and remember your father through them. As others have said, get a friend with a permit to carry an weapon and have this person escort you to NGC headquarters. You'll have to pay a good $1000 dollars, I think, to get all of these coins graded, but for a collection worth 20 or 30 times that, its definitely worth your time and money.

Best of luck to you! I hope you (if you decide to keep the coins) enjoy them for all they are worth. I also hope that (if you decide to sell) you consult us before doing so. You shouldn't sell these coins to a dealer, but instead get them professionally appraised and individually listed at cost, and then get a table at a "coin show" where dealers from all over the country come to sell their coins. I would suggest the FUN show for you, (Florida United Numismatists). Check them out online and buy a table there, then, in January, when the show occurs, you can be ready to sell those coins to the PUBLIC, who will pay more than dealers

Oh and by the way, those 21 gold $20s are worth, if mint state, over 1600 dollars apiece. Thats 30000 dollars RIGHT THERE

Hope this helps you out!

 

Well, I found out that this is not possible.

My response from NGC follows:


Thank you for your email. I'm sorry but NGC does not allow customers
bring their coins to us directly for security reasons. In order for any
collector to submit coins to us for grading, they would have to first
obtain an account. Below are the different types of ways one can go
about submitting to us.

You will also find a link below to obtain grading costs & our services
offered.

Submissions are accepted the following ways:

1. Through an NGC member dealer. To find one, go to www.ngccoin.com and
look under "find a dealer." (This way does not create your own account
with us, you would have to always use the dealers account to submit).
You may also check your local yellow pages and call coin dealers and ask
them if they are an "authorized NGC dealer" since not all of the dealers
are listed on our website.

2. Through the ANA - American Numismatic Association. (you must be a
member of ANA and complete an application to obtain a submitter number
with NGC). If you are a member with the ANA just go to www.ngccoin.com
and fill out the form for an associate membership on the home page (you
will need to provide us with your ANA membership #). If you are not an
ANA member you can give them a call @ 800-367-9723, sign up, then once
you receive your ANA membership # go to our website and fill out that
ANA associate membership application. Our address is on the website.

3. Through the Collectors Society (must be a paid member) at
www.collectors-society.com. You must have a paid account to submit coins
to NGC. You will receive a packet with invoices and pricing information
2-3 weeks after you sign up.

The cost to submit a coin can vary from $12.50 to $125 dollars. It
depends on the value of the coin, the quantity, and how quickly you want
it graded. A price list can be found at www.ngccoin.com under coin
grading services.

Please feel free to call customer service at 800-642-2646 with any
additional questions you may have. Thank you for considering NGC as your
grading service.



Can I ask, which is the best of the three options for me?


Thank ye,

Rosethe

 

Their security, not yours.

A good dealer could submit them for you.

Or you can join the ANA -always a good idea! and send for the kit and send them in yourself.
Send a few at a time, plain bubble padded mailer addressed and taped, inside a plain padded mailer. Insured. Registered. DO NOT indicate what is in the envelope on the outside, except on the insurance form, which will be removed..
If they were cleaned, or damaged ( and of course you can't know that)
NGC may net grade them. That would be preferable to getting them back ungraded.. However anacs may be a good alternative, as they will grade it anyway, with proper notes on condition.

A good reliable auction sale may be better than a show, and all of them will sell. . If you are not tough it is easy to get beaten down on price at a show, and some shows sell better than others. .

 

I was just thinking about this, Even if you plan on keeping most of them it would pay to have them certified, if only to be easier to insure them, store them, and make them easier to sell as you get older.

 

So certification is separate from grading?

It still scares the livin' pants off me to think about putting coins in the USPS or FedEx. Both have lost parcels for me

Even if they were fully insured, you cannot replace their rarity, and you only get the value of the insurance, not what they would be worth in 30 years.
:rolling:

 

Strange, when I was investigating this ring with large yellow stone in it (hoping it's a yellow sapphire) I came across the GIA.
They allow you to drop off/pick up stones. And aren't gemstones every bit a security issue as coins are?