Stop the press!

Howdy peeps,

Sorry I haven't been around but I've been bizy and something veddy interesting has occurred so if you're curious what it is, check it out:

http://coinchat.org/forums/showthread.php?t=479

Hope to hear from you.

Ribbit

 

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Yep, been noticing on that and another forum.

Jim

 

The post on CoinChat has nothing to do with CoinChat, it has to do with something much more interesting. I hope you took the time to go read it, since it's about to hit several numismatic publications so you can know about it before everyone else does. :whistle:

Ribbit

Ps: If you have to join to read the post, let me know and I will fix it where it's open to the public. I'm a member so I don't have a problem reading the threads but I can't remember what the settings are and I don't want anyone to be forced to join, because I screwed something up? :goofer: I'm still figuring things out and it's going to take me a while.

 

Yes, I read about your good fortune on the cent. I will keep my fingers crossed until you get back the answer. But don't count your flies until they are gulped

I am a quiet member there.

Jim

 

I'm lost. Give me a hint.

 

PLEASE, tell us what you have run across!!!

 

A 2nd one of this was found:

http://www.stacksarchive.com/viewlo...ZlLmNvbS92aWV3Y2F0LnBocD9hdWN0aW9uPVNUMDUwNWE=

Ribbit

 

It opened up to this 1787 Connecticut copper!!! Are you gonna run into some $$$???

 

I'd vote this thread of the week. Great post Mr. Toad!

 

I think "hop" into is more like it. It should fund my coin collecting addiction quite nicely and now I might be able to afford a Chain Cent.

Ribbit

 

Hey, are you part frog??

 

The Connecticut is without a doubt a 37.4-RR, the 2nd one known, but I won't make the call on my Lincoln, I'll wait for ANACS's decision before I "flip" over it but the ANACS Grader at C4 put it under a microscope and spent a lot of time examining it and gave it two :thumb: up so the odds are really good it's also good to go.

Ribbit

 

That's amazing Toad, good for you!! :thumb: Is there an amazing rags to riches story to add?

 

I refuse to answer that out of fear for my legs! :eat:

Ribbit

 

LOL! I love me a nice batch of roasted frogs legs...

 

Good luck Toad. That's really cool.

 

Ok, so now we know where you been........

CONGRATULATIONS!!! to own the second known specimen of any coin is fantastic, more so if it bis a pre-federal colonial.
BUT wait, if I understood you corre3ctly you want to sell it, and buy a Chain Cent with the proceedings? your Connecticut is MUCH more interesting...!?!?!!

Now you can help us attribute Marks new Fugio (it was beyond me)

 

He posted it on CoinChat also and it's a 17-S. See what I said to Garrett to show him how I attribute Fugios:

http://coinchat.org/forums/showthread.php?t=472

There are times I will go from the reverse first but the obverse was the best bet with Mark's. The very first thing I always dew, is figure out which side to start with, which requires a full overview of both sides, then I decide which to attempt first. :kewl:

As to keeping my 37.4-RR, why? I'm going to find another one (probably in better condition) so now's the best time to sell, while it's still the 2nd one known and a R-8.

Ribbit

 

Well I've looked at it and so far I'm still not convinced it's an M37.4-RR I will agree that the rev sure seems to be RR. ff.1 is similar but it doesn't match. It definitely isn't obv 37.10 the position of the first N and the bust proves that. But when you compare it to the 37.4-k.1 in the Stacks sale that you referenced you will see that the first fleuron under the point of the bust doesn't match. The fleuron on your coin is further under the bust. (More like on 37.12 or 37.13) On the Stacks coin the innermost point of the fleuron is pointing at the first epalat(?) while on your coin that point is past the first one and is pointing toward the second one. I don't know if the links will work but I'll try.



I also don't believe the two hair curls (below the ear and the one lower and right) match up. I haven't tried an overlay to see if they do though. That opinion is just from eyeballing them. (The Stacks piece may be misattributed though. The catalog says it's 37.4 but the written attribution on the coin doesn't look like 37.4 Looks more like .8 or .6 but the coin doesn't match either of those obverses.)

 

First, to eyeball these, you need to know a lot more about the variety, like the fact the 37.4 clashed sometime into the marriage with the k.1 reverse and damaged quite a bit so using a 37.4-k.1 obverse, isn't the best one to use but that's another reason that supports my coin being a 37.4, it isn't clashed. But if you were to do the overlay, you'd see the fleuron on mine fits beautifully, but it is clearly squished (like a toad) so it doesn't look correct but with the overlay, enough fits the "groves" to see it is the same.

One of the things I said was don't eyeball it and say it isn't a 37.4 obverse, especially based on the fleuron. I'm very sick of hearing that, when the peeps haven't done an overlay to see it is correct but I continually have to waste my time telling the peeps to do the overlay first, even though I've said it repeatedly already, so it wastes my time. Why is it peeps can't read what I say and get the message?

You know you're my friend, a very dear friend, so I'm not busting your nutz, I'm trying to stop anyone else from saying it before they've done the overlay, since they are basing their opinion on their eyesight and that is WRONG! Base it on the facts and the only way to do that is to follow my instructions and do everything I showed that needs to be done and if you do that, you'll realize the fleuron is squished, but fits and everything else does too! "D

Ribbit

Ps: I forgot to tell you one crucial piece of information but it would require a lot of knowledge of this obverse variety. My coin has a 90 degree clockwise rotation. Check to see if you can find that on a 37.10-RR?