Two 72 pennies rpm plz tell me it is

1st pic again closer

 

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It looks like 002 but upside down

 

I always rotate a coin 90, 180, 240 degrees to make sure what i see is what i see

 

It could be that you have a pair of RPMs...maybe at different die states. It's hard trying to take closeups through a loupe. Here's an idea you might be able to apply -

 

I took a look at VV's listing for 002. I don't think it's a match. I don't see the secondary MM extending below the dominant MM. Maybe it's there, but with blurry pictures, I can't see anything (but probably should). Play around with your setup for taking pictures. If you can get sharper images, we should be able to pinpoint this.

 

Yeah I agree to it was only the second one. But I have a 82 that made me speechless.

 

hey @Italy8686 looks like their both RPM's. congrats to ya. good eye catching them and great pictures to. good luck to ya

 

Not trying to burst anyone's bubble here. I do not see anything that resembles an RPM. Everything that you are seeing on the inside of the MM is die deterioration. RPM's require some sort of separation. This one does not have any evidence, close but no cigar.
The first thing to look for is MM placement, it is closest to RPM-005, but still is not in the correct position, nor does it have the secondary MM as seen in the reference.

@Italy8686 if you are serious about this and keep searching you will eventually find something. Hang in there.

 

One thing I was hoping for was to see some photos of the areas with markers. Die stages may affect availability, but useful in the diagnostic. Very well could be die chips/wash inside the bowl of the D.

Many things can be gathered by out-of-focus photos, but sometimes clarity is essential to the diagnostic (as is here). Without the coin in hand, anomalies can be misattributed without much effort. Are the vertical bar/bowl doubling missing...or just washed out (e.g., later die stage)? Details on the coin surface...trace elements/devices or signs of wear can help develop the story.

Not a shot at Italy8686 or anyone else, but effort to get solid photographs should be extended, especially on threads that run on (usually because members are struggling to make out details). Once the excitement to post 'anything' is gone, returning to the photography to get shots that are clear and depict features and markers needed to attribute a coin should be taken at a slower pace.

 

@Kevin Mader if the MM position is not correct it cannot be the RPM suggested. The positioning is close to number 005. But still not in the correct spot. The only viable conclusion is that it is not an RPM.

 

I think you are correct. I'm using Coppercoins and to your point, the MM is further south on these specimens. The vertical bar on the CC coin had it faded where as the 003 at VV was much more prominent and should be visible. Placement is primary and the other tells are secondary...markers tertiary. I'd still like to see clearer photos as the inside bowl does look like other specimens that have been attributed. Outside chance it could be an unattributed variety.

 

It is more than known that the inner post of the D breaks off and cause's Die Chips. Some sort of separation is necessary, and neither of the coins show it. Die placement of the MM is the key, with out that. Honestly there is only what it is die deterioration.

 

I think it is and now its to late. Too late for the new post I sent it in already. Wth

 

I matched 4 websites and pcgs pics to match them

 

Dont let the shadows doll you

 

Where did you send it? Do they attribute this variety? PCGS, for example will only attribute varieties listed in the cherry pickers guide. Did you specify that you want variety attribution and pay the extra fee?

The sad thing is that even if it's attributed by a TPG, it will be worth a lot less than the fees. You could have used that money for books or other coins. Oh well.

 

Ues yes a.nd yes and to late now. Due to you know I dont even want to say anything about that right now

 

Huh, 4 web sites,
PCGS doesn't recognize any rpm's for 72D, Wexler doesn't either?
So how did you find the variety on their site and photos?

If you matched them which ones are they?