Class V doubled die on 1987-F Deutsche Mark

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Please show the full coin. Thanks

 

It's in Post #9, Capt (per previous request). It's a little dark, but it zooms when you click it, and I think it should work for you. Just go back a page, it's there, both the heads and tails sides.

 

Thanks for the quick response.

 

SamCoin-sure looks like a legit hub doubling to me.

 

@coinquest1961 Thanks for checking it out!

 

FWIW, I see what a normal one looks like, now, and I'm persuaded you're right. I hadn't realized how thin these letters were. As they constitute the primary images on this coin, the primary images are intact. The way I had it before, those images were compromised, making the notching a hard accept. But now everything fits, and I'm in agreement this is a doubled die. So congrats, FWIW at this point, are in order.

 

NP, thanks for being cool about it, and sorry I got a little crabby with my explanation. For the future though, it's worth knowing that you can't get true split serifs on a mechanically doubled coin. Why is this? Because for the serifs to be truly split, there needs to be raised material on both sets of serifs separated by a "valley" where the relief is actually *lower* than the material on either set of serifs. When you have MD, you get flat, shelf-like doubling, but this type of "valley" is impossible, since there would have to be some way of depressing some of the material lower than the rest of the flattened material.

 

But won't a bounce do that? Strike doubling is caused by a loosely-secured coin. A bounce instead of a slide or twist would produce two adjacent images, as well, only the primary image would be borrowed from to form much of the secondary image.

But I understand what you're saying, and your splits do appear to be the same height off the coin, so again, I do agree you got it.

 

A bounce will only do that in the case of incuse machine doubling. Perhaps you are thinking of a coin that has been double struck in the chamber? Any bounce that could create a separate set of serifs with spread lines between them and the original would have to bounce low enough to mostly obliterate the original strike (since we are getting that "valley" of separation between the two, we know that the valley must represent the lowest point in the bounce - only problem is, if we bounced that low, we obliterated most of the original strike in the process).

 

The planchet is cockeyed in the chamber. It's not held flat, but tilted. These kinds of things happen. Throw out the Wikipedia definition. Striking abnormalities aren't one size fits all. Get a gander at this. Look at how just the strike cut this deep into these areas in this coin. This is violence coupled with malice aforethought on this one...

 

This coin seems to show classic MD. I see no signs of split serifs.

 

I'm not showing it as an illustration of that.