This Time a World Coin...Outta My Vault (Part 4)

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by tmoneyeagles, Nov 21, 2009.

  1. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Hmmm, never once thought of that. Almost like a premonition for things to come, with the stamp being black, eh?
    Very interesting, do you have a picture of the red 1841 stamp?
     
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  3. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Sure, here is one. 1841 one penny red ( Great Britain #3)

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  4. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    I like the black one better... But I guess different times call for different designs to like.
    Nice stamps desertgem
     
  5. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    When the US issued it's first stamps in 1847, The first stamp wasn't black, but the second one was. The low value 5 cents ( stamp #1) was Ben Franklin in red brown. The high value, 10 cents (stamp#2) was George Washington in Black.

    The red GB#3 is not the best of copies ( even though it is the most inexpensive of the 4 shown). I do love engraved stamps.

    Jim
     
  6. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    I have a rather large stamp collection. I have a lot of the Carmine Washington Stamps, although the types are hard to decipher. I also have a replica of some Ben Franklin Stamp, it is blue, but that is about all I know LOL The rest of my stamps are nothing special, and all of them have been used, but they are all interesting to say the least.
     
  7. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Ok, just something else to tempt you, and then I will let this one go. You might really like to collect stock certificates, especially ones of the past as the engraved vignettes are often so well done and usually very large. Here is my favorite from the 1930s.

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  8. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Now that is beautiful! Can you elaborate on what that really is?
     
  9. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Notice that the figure on the left ( PEACE) has her eyes closed and the figure on the right ( SWORD) has her eyes very open and watching. Late 1930s world events ???
    Needs research. :)

    Jim
     
  10. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Ahhhh C'mon!
    Well, gimme that beauty, then I'll do the research... :D
     
  11. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    It was for 100 shares in the company ( made Stutz Bearcat autos) that eventually went under. Often you will find these in antique stores or under ephemera ( old paper). I have mortgages and loan papers and such from the 1880s. The stock certificate was engraved by the American Banknote Co. ( The very bottom most line of print in the first photo). Appreciate the offer, but I think not :)

    Jim
     
  12. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Interesting. So does any other stock certificates or paper money have a beautiful design just like that?
     
  13. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Look for Railroads, Banks, or Mining Companies. Foreign companies are also usually nice.
    Search "stock certificates" on ebay for nice ones. Usually not many bidding. Here is a nice historical one from Arizona Territory before it became a state.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/1904-Colorado-Kansas-Oil-Stock-Certificate-Territory-Az_W0QQitemZ230400501187QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item35a4f0a5c3

    Since newer certificates are mainly moved from company to stock brokers, the public may own a lot of stock, but never see a certificate anymore. Besides the older ones are better appearing and historical.
    Jim
     
  14. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper

    Well well well....now TMoney, it does look like I have you hooked on vignettes now huh?
    So are you going to make the switch?? We going to see you in the Paper Money Forum?? :hug: :hug::smile :smile


    RickieB
     
  15. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

  16. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Okay...maybe I'll get just one or two notes... :eek:
    LOL! I guess you will see me in the paper money forum a little more frequently

    I'm more interested with paper with full bodied women. I think the one you showed was absolutely beautiful, and had creativity.
    And of course, I love any design with an eagle. :)
     
  17. TheBigH

    TheBigH Senior Member

    That's a very interesting coin, but I have to ask; what the $#@& is black cupro-nickel? I've never heard of that in my life.
     
  18. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cupronickel
    Hopefully that helps.
     
  19. TheBigH

    TheBigH Senior Member

    That was a good article, but I didn't see anything about black cupro-nickel. I just wonder how it was colored.
     
  20. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Pearl black nickel is a type of finish. The coin has a matte appearance rather than a shiny polished one.

    Matte (Pearl) Nickel Plating:
    Matte nickel plating is a uniform finish that is semi-lustrous with low reflectivity. It is also referred to as pearl or velour nickel; it does not have the lines or grainy appearance found in traditional satin nickel finishes. Matte nickel is usually coated with chrome, black nickel or another final finish. It is used in the plumbing, optical, lighting, and automotive industries.


    And this was the first use in coins evidently.

    Jim
     
  21. TheBigH

    TheBigH Senior Member

    Oh, ok. Thanks for that explanation. Is that the finish used on guns?
     
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