1909 s vdb?

For the world I cant see the VDB on the back of this listing. There are good photos on the bottom but I cant find it! Am I blind?http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=360208007904&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

 

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It is not that unusual for the VDB to be poorly struck (grease filled?). Here is a blowup and the same marked for the VDB.

 

I have seen the VDB weak like that.

It looks good.

But usually sells for a discount vs a regular strike.

 

Yep, the VDB is definitely there. Also the initials and the periods separating them are known to fill in, I think from die grease and metal shavings as well as weak strike. The good news is, at BRNA show a couple of years ago, I saw a guy buy a nice 1909-S in an AU50 PCGS slab. Guess what! Weak VDB on the reverse! Kinda made his day. :whistle:

 

a BIG discount.

 

no, not a BIG discount.

As long as it is slabbed.

 

That slab doesn't mean a whole lot to me. The VDB is just barely identifiable, I would almost say its no more than a right sharp filler...
Yup, filler...

 

I've got a '09 S struck through grease where the VDB is completely missing that I'll sell ya!

 

I have been looking for that coin in that graded holder and have the cash to buy it. I think however I will pass on this one There has to be a better example out there somewhere spending that kind of coin you want some eye appeal and for me this coin is missing it. I have up to $3000. to spend on a 1909-S VDB I am sure I will find one somewhere

 

I would have to agree with you Yankee. If you're going to spend $3k on a coin, it should definately show a better V.D.B. I guess that I can understand the grading of the coin because it is very nice except for the virtual disappearing act on the V.D.B. Remind me again what the difference is between a 1909S and 1909S VDB? Oh ya, a few thousand dollars.

 

I have had the weak S VDB's before... the old good ANACS used to mark them as such... and it was like the coin had leprosy... a very tough sell with the weak VDB IMHO.

 

I've got an empty slab

I've got few 1909 S VDB's.

But the "S" is totally grease filled. I'm sure of it.hya:

The VDB is prominent. The "S" is just too weak to see.:whistle:

I also have a few empty slabs.

What do you want the slab to say?

 

And I have several 1909S VDB's but someone removed the S and the VDB with a dremel Oh wait, I'm still reading another thread

 

If I can't see it, I won't pay for it, slabbed or not. This is also true of varieties of large cents. I take no ones word on attribution.

 

.......sounds like a CAC supporter, here.------------------------NOT!

 

Pcgs

I have many PCGS graded coins Any coin I buy over $200.00 I like slabbed I am no good at grading at all!. I feel PCGS does alot better grading job then I ever could. Also I have found when selling to dealers or others they like the slabbed coins too. Most of my PCGS coins are high value in nature.

 

I'm not up to speed on the abbreviations. Who is CAC?

 

I like slabbed coins for grading and CONFIRMATION of what I see. Others are more trusting of a third party graded coin and I cannot disagree with that. Most of my coins just don't justify a fifty dollar fee for this service. I can't get a half job of grading only without conservation and attribution.

 

I know many of these do have weak VDBs on them, but remember that it could just be the lighting of the coin in the photo too. I can take my strong VDB example and tilt it just the right (or wrong) way and you can hardly see the VDB. Would have to see the coin in hand I think, or have another set of photos, to be sure of this coin.

 

.......the initials stand for Certified Acceptance Corporation, a company which reviews coins that are already graded and encapsulated by a third-party.