For the world I cant see the VDB on the back of this listing. There are good photos on the bottom but I cant find it! Am I blind?http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=360208007904&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
It is not that unusual for the VDB to be poorly struck (grease filled?). Here is a blowup and the same marked for the VDB.
I have seen the VDB weak like that. It looks good. But usually sells for a discount vs a regular strike.
Yep, the VDB is definitely there. Also the initials and the periods separating them are known to fill in, I think from die grease and metal shavings as well as weak strike. The good news is, at BRNA show a couple of years ago, I saw a guy buy a nice 1909-S in an AU50 PCGS slab. Guess what! Weak VDB on the reverse! Kinda made his day. :whistle:
That slab doesn't mean a whole lot to me. The VDB is just barely identifiable, I would almost say its no more than a right sharp filler... Yup, filler...
I have been looking for that coin in that graded holder and have the cash to buy it. I think however I will pass on this one There has to be a better example out there somewhere spending that kind of coin you want some eye appeal and for me this coin is missing it. I have up to $3000. to spend on a 1909-S VDB I am sure I will find one somewhere
I would have to agree with you Yankee. If you're going to spend $3k on a coin, it should definately show a better V.D.B. I guess that I can understand the grading of the coin because it is very nice except for the virtual disappearing act on the V.D.B. Remind me again what the difference is between a 1909S and 1909S VDB? Oh ya, a few thousand dollars.
I have had the weak S VDB's before... the old good ANACS used to mark them as such... and it was like the coin had leprosy... a very tough sell with the weak VDB IMHO.
I've got an empty slab I've got few 1909 S VDB's. But the "S" is totally grease filled. I'm sure of it.hya: The VDB is prominent. The "S" is just too weak to see.:whistle: I also have a few empty slabs. What do you want the slab to say?
And I have several 1909S VDB's but someone removed the S and the VDB with a dremel Oh wait, I'm still reading another thread
If I can't see it, I won't pay for it, slabbed or not. This is also true of varieties of large cents. I take no ones word on attribution.
Pcgs I have many PCGS graded coins Any coin I buy over $200.00 I like slabbed I am no good at grading at all!. I feel PCGS does alot better grading job then I ever could. Also I have found when selling to dealers or others they like the slabbed coins too. Most of my PCGS coins are high value in nature.
I like slabbed coins for grading and CONFIRMATION of what I see. Others are more trusting of a third party graded coin and I cannot disagree with that. Most of my coins just don't justify a fifty dollar fee for this service. I can't get a half job of grading only without conservation and attribution.
I know many of these do have weak VDBs on them, but remember that it could just be the lighting of the coin in the photo too. I can take my strong VDB example and tilt it just the right (or wrong) way and you can hardly see the VDB. Would have to see the coin in hand I think, or have another set of photos, to be sure of this coin.
.......the initials stand for Certified Acceptance Corporation, a company which reviews coins that are already graded and encapsulated by a third-party.
