Coin Abuse (NSFW)

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by hotwheelsearl, Apr 10, 2021.

  1. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I regret to inform you that I have turned myself into the Numismatic Police for the abuse that I subjected this coin to.

    While riding the high of the Trajan that I recovered from the depths of Hades, I decided to "improve" the appearance of my boy 7Sev. Nothing can stop me. I'm a superhero.
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    Here's a denarius. Looks pretty good. But, there's a bit of horn silver, which just won't do. What is a man to do but to toss it in sodium thiosulfate? Sounds reasonable, right?
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    Unfortunately, this didn't work. So I then grab my mad scientist's collection of random chemicals and dunk it in everything I can find. It just keeps getting worse and worse. At one point, the coin turned completely black and nothing could recover it. I even applied Tarn-X which just made it look even uglier.

    At wit's end, I took some Hagerty Silversmith polish and the results are....not great.
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    Hilariously enough, this coin now looks totally fake. Amazing.

    Lesson: sometimes it's best to leave good enough alone.
     
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  3. Inspector43

    Inspector43 Celebrating 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Might finish it with Ren Wax. That might blend the surface irregularities.
     
  4. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Good idea! Certainly won't hurt...
     
  5. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    I would recommend against this.
     
  6. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I've never tried Ren Wax on silver, only bronze. Does it not work on silver?
     
  7. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    That stuff is garbage on bronze coins IMO and certainly brings down the value for several valid reasons.
    But look into it before following some randos advice, ESPECIALLY on silver.
    Using ren crap, as advertised, locks in the coin, forever. And on silver will stop it from toning. Ensuring your coin looks this bright, shiny and damaged forever. As you said, from bad to worse... and then to worst.
    Set it on a high up windowsill and forget about it for a year or two. You'll be much happier for it then further damage.
     
  8. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the advice! I'll certainly try that.
     
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  9. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Doesn't it come off with acetone? :nailbiting:
     
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  10. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    For what it's worth, I think the cleaned version looks better. I'm not seeing "fake" so much as "cleaned." Nice job.
     
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  11. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    I'd leave the coin alone now. Let it tone down over time. This takes patience, but the results should be beneficial.
     
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  12. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Just the kind of stuff we want smeared all over our artistic pieces of ancient propaganda and commerce passed down through the ages ;)
     
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  13. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Now you're gonna think I'm evil :vamp:, but if it's an ultra-thin layer and removable, I don't really have a problem with it (i.e. Ren wax) on AE. (Though of course it is a major problem if it seals in bronze disease that quickly destroys the coin!)
     
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  14. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Thanks! I do kinda like the cameo effect. For a display piece it’s not bad :D
     
  15. otlichnik

    otlichnik Well-Known Member

    Ren wax is easily removable with acetone and acetone evaporates quickly and completely - which is why you must be in a very well ventilated space to use it.

    Both are used in many museums worldwide. I watched both being used by curators in the Wallace Collection museum in London some years ago on a visit to the back rooms.

    Of course it is entirely up to anyone whether they use them or not, but neither do damage in and of themselves.

    That said, only use Red wax when you are sure you want to seal the coin's surface in.

    As for making the coin shiny - I find Red wax does that for a while and then it slowly goes dull but can be buffed up again with a quick rub with a microfibre cloth.

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