Alrighty, here is my next copper piece in the Norfed/Liberty Collection. 2009 PEACE Copper Norfed Dollar These sacrifice in quality to keep the price low, which is evident on the 2009 copper dollar. This, piece was minted before the 2009 TEA PARTY Dollar, which I showed in this thread. http://www.cointalk.com/t78797/ (That Tea Party Dollar, could very well be the last of the Liberty Dollars, that is in copper) All opinions, and comments, and questions are always welcomed. Enjoy Y'all!
This one, I am believing to be cleaned, the color is a little darker, than I had liked it to be though. Most of these do vary in colors, a very difficult coin to photograph...Once again these coins were made in very very low quality, to keep the price low for them.
This is the only one in the series, with barely no luster, and lots of scratches, and most times, a darker color.... So I can see where you are coming from, and I would have to agree based on my picture provided. I will try and re do the picture a little later tonight Hopefully I can give it more of a copper look, in my photos, than an ancient coin, dirt-look...
Yeah - but it looks silver in the pictures. What is the real color? No matter what it is interesting.
I'll have newer pictures up by tonight hopefully... It is a little less dull, than my other ones... Here are my others
Probably because you haven't been in Numismatics very long... These dollars were not meant to undermine the United States currency, nor be a numismatic token/medal These were designed to encourage a regulated bartering system. These coins are backed up with an actual value, so that the traders don't feel that one got a better deal than the other. These coins were meant to be traded, amongst the people, who felt that this system would work.... this system offered a way for people to trade, without people feeling cheated. All the Norfed/Liberty dollars have an intrinsic value, back up by the metals they are composed of. A third party, is stating the value of something, rather than one of the sides in the trading agreement. The Norfed dollars were actually made first, and I have noticed that I have been putting NORFED in all of my recent posts, which in actuality, is false. The NORFED dollars changed to Liberty Dollars, after they had gotten raided the first time. The second raid, this time, of the Liberty Dollars, has put their creator/designer, Bernard von NotHaus, in some legal issues, regarding the undermining of the United States Currency. Unlike the the first raid, the second raid of the company, did not lose any actual metals. If you want more information on the Norfed/Liberty Dollars, go to these two sites, which should help you learn more. http://www.libertydollar.org/ http://sites.google.com/site/libertydollarencyclopedia/
Where do you get these peace/liberty/norfed or whatever-they-are-called dollars? I saw one at a bank one time and the teller had taken it as a real dollar. Of course, it was silver so she kept it and made out like a bandit....
You can get them, on eBay, or you can look around on line. Read my above post, and it should give you some information on the Liberty/Norfed dollars. The reason I call some of these "Peace" dollars, is because on the top, they have PEACE written them...Some have FREEDOM, some have LIBERTY...They are all different categories. Go to the links that I provided in the post above the your post, and those should help out a bit. Also, I tried re-doing the pictures again, and this is closest to what it looks like in hand.
I have a few questions on these... 1. Would the gov't confinscate them if they were found sold? just wondering... 2. Also, what exactly would be the difference between these and any other bullion? Obviously these have more of an interesting past, but thats not what I am getting at really. If the whole purpose of these were to be traded amongst who wanted to and backed by intrinsic value, haven't we always been able to do that with any silver round, copper round, ET.? I don't get why this guy was shut down. stainless
1. No 2. These Norfed/Liberty Dollars, were meant to be one of the most popular traded bullion, in the nation. People understand the quantity and quality of the metal, as opposed to any other bullion company's metals. Translation, if you are trading Norfed/Liberty Dollars, than more people would want to trade them, for goods, as they would know about them, more than any other bullion, as most bullion is designed to be hoarded, or to be collected, while the Norfed/Liberty Dollars are meant to be traded, although, people do collect, like myself, and many others. These can be a collectible medal, although, that was not their sole purpose. Stick around I will be posting more of these as time goes by Ask any questions you have
Ah, ok. Thanks for the clear up. I gotta admit! since you've been posting these I've been doing some reading on'em. Just another question...so, when these first came out, what was the initial price? just $1? stainless
For the copper dollars? Yes, I believe it was, just that price, or at least I knew it was for the TEA PARTY Dollars.... There are a lot of other editions, of these coins though, and I don't know the issue price of each, but I do not believe every single one, was an issue price of one dollar. Most of the silver ones, had an issue price around $20-$30, depending on where silver was at that year... They also have an alternating base, to going along with the price of silver. Some years have a $10 base, some have a $20, others have a $50
