1807 Bust Half Opinions

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by matchmaker, Nov 16, 2009.

  1. matchmaker

    matchmaker Senior Member

    I have a chance to buy this coin. It is Described by the seller as an XF and the asking price is $1250.00

    Is this a good Overton variety? And does it make XF?

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  3. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Maybe XF details... but from that color it has been cleaned and harshly.

    I'd avoid it.
     
  4. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    This is just my opinion on why I do not think it makes XF - from the pictures it looks like more wear than weak strike, especially with all the tick marks. The color of the coin also makes me think harshly cleaned. I think this coin is over priced for the grade and the cleaning - I would call it VF details. I would recommend watching heritage or one of the other auction sites for a nicer coin. The O-112(which is what this looks like) is very common and a popular coin. Just my opinion, but please check out heritage auction archive results.
     
  5. matchmaker

    matchmaker Senior Member

  6. andrew289

    andrew289 Senior Analyst


    If you have to ask these questions then shouldn't shouldn't be buying this coin. Do you just have a pile of money laying around to toss about on any random coin? Do you collect this series?

    Knowledge is power ..know the series you collect. Learn how to grade on your own. Know the Overton numbers ...otherwise it looks like you are just throwing money around.
     
  7. matchmaker

    matchmaker Senior Member


    Admittedly Bust Halves are not my strong suit. But, I am building a first year type set and need that particular coin.
     
  8. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Right-o.

    Hold out for a coin that still has some luster. This one is completely washed out.
     
  9. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Buy the book. I think you'll find it very enlightening. PM me to remind me to post you the title. I don't have it here handy.
     
  10. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Well that sounds interesting - a first year type set. I don't think for this you need the overton book, but just a good grading guide. Keep in mind the variety on these coin can mean thousands of dollars in price. With that in mind I would research the coin on heritage to get an idea of prices and what to look while grading. Just keep in mind the overton number - that will help more than anything in my opinion.
     
  11. matchmaker

    matchmaker Senior Member

    Thanks for the help
     
  12. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    This should have read - Keep in mind the overton number and its impact on price. All of these will help in my opinion. And to clarify even more looking at heritage for pricing and grading assitance will help.

    Sheesh - my fat little fingers can't keep up with my brain.
     
  13. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    DO NOT BUY THIS COIN!

    Is that clear enough?

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  14. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    I am looking for an 1807 Capped Bust myself, but I would not buy that one for the same reasons everybody else is mentioning: the toning (or lack of it) is unnatural, and not pleasant. If and when I do buy mine it will probably be from Heritage (or Stacks). That way I am sure of what I am getting.
     
  15. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    eduard:
    That is debatable.

    I purchased an 1882 CC Double eagle in AU from a Bowers & Marena auction back in the early 1990's.

    I sent it in to SEGS and it came back as a cleaned XF-40.
     
  16. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**


    Frank, now that you mention it, you are right: I bought a 1795 Flowing Hair Dollar from B&M in 1987 and it turned out to have been cleaned as well. No mention of that in the catalogue description. All the more reason to be wary..........
     
  17. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    That coin appears to have nice details, but a very unnatural patina (or lack thereof). I would not like it in my collection. I need one for my set too, but this is more the look I'm holding out for.

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  18. chip

    chip Novice collector

    should I buy this bust half? They say no no no.

    (sung to the tune of they want me to go to rehab)

    For 1250 you can get a really nice example, this one is not real nice. It is better than one I was offered about a month ago, That one had been dipped in rocket fuel and then sanded with 120 grit sandpaper.

    You talk about hairlines, that one had more hairs than an 80s metal band.
     
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