Maurice Tiberius

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  1. Voulgaroktonou

    Voulgaroktonou Well-Known Member

    Yes, this is Maurice Tiberius, Constantinople, year 8, officina 5. Sear 494.
     
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  3. philologus_1

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    I have a few, but this is my favorite:
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    Maurice Tiberius AD 582-602. AE Half-Follis. Theoupolis (Antioch).
    Obv.: Crowned bust facing, wearing consular robe and holding mappa and eagle-tipped sceptre
    Rev.: Large XX, cross above, ANNO III/ Ч across field, R below.
    Diam.: 21.1 mm. Weight: 4.37 gr.
    Attrib.: SB_534. DOC_181.
    (Purchased from David Hendin, July, 2011.)
     
  4. gogili1977

    gogili1977 Well-Known Member

    Thank you.
     
  5. Herberto

    Herberto Well-Known Member

    Wait, wait, wait Basil II. How can you be so sure :)

    That coin could also be Tiberius II Constantine (578–582) year 8. Why are you so sure that it is Maurice Tiberius?
     
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  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Maurice is famous for messed up legends including some that really seem like they should be Tiberius. While it may not be 100% certain, coins of Tiberius usually have a cross on the headgear while Maurice has a trefoil. I avoid coins off center losing the top (easy way out).
    Tiberius II Constantine Antioch
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    Tiberius II Constantine Constantinople (cross barely on flan)
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    Maurice Constantinople (head decor complex/unclear but MAUR is clear)
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    Legend is a mess but trefoil is clear
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    Maurice Antioch (clear trefoil)
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  7. Voulgaroktonou

    Voulgaroktonou Well-Known Member

    Were that coin a year 8 of Tib. II (Sear 430), the Greek numeral M would be cursive, not Roman, as here.
     
  8. Voulgaroktonou

    Voulgaroktonou Well-Known Member

    Happy to help in a small way.
     
  9. Voulgaroktonou

    Voulgaroktonou Well-Known Member

    That's a beauty!.
     
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  10. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    with a plus 1 for the reasonable question :)
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  11. BenSi

    BenSi Well-Known Member

    Not in perfect condition but a left facing portrait, unusual for Byzantine and this has not shown up in the thread yet. Maurice Tiberius

    AE 10 Nummi Carthage 18mm 3.64gm SBCV-566 F/VF
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  12. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    Better late than never, here are some folles of his:

    Constantinople, year 7 (588-589 AD)

    D-Camera Maurice Tiberius, follis, 588-589 CE, Sear 494, 11.29 grams eBay NGC 2020 12-3-20.jpg



    Cyzicus, Year 1 (but could be 2), (582-583 AD)

    D-Camera Maurice Tiberius  follis, Cyzicus, Year 1,  582-83 AD officina A SB 492 11.0g  01-20-21.jpg


    Cyzicus, Year 8 (590-591 AD)

    D-Camera Maurice Tiberius follis Cyzicus RY 8 590-91AD, 11.9g Roma 54 lg lt 3-4-21.jpg
     
  13. Curtis

    Curtis Well-Known Member

    Nice ones @robinjojo -- that top one is really impressive! I guess if we're reopening the floodgates, I'll share my nicely patinated Follis from RY 9 (590/1), Constantinople, 4th Officina. (Probably my best patina on a Byzantine coin.) There are so many years, mints and officinas for these I haven't been able to find others of this exact combination yet...

    Was happy to find this in a group lot of large Byzantine AE from Kolner a while back but still haven't replaced my quick coin-in-hand photo with a proper one:

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  14. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    That's one of the best green patinas that I have seen on a Byzantine follis in a long time! A great coin!

    You can find some really good bargains in group lots of Byzantine bronzes, if you know what to look for. Your coin is a no-brainer.
     
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  15. Severus Alexander

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    Wow, I love all three of those, @robinjojo! The portrait on the first is absolutely spectacular.

    That second one is a Heraclius though. The famous Cyzicus ski goggles portrait:
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    (Year 1 is 610-11, Year 2 611-12.)
     
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  16. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Maurice Tiberius, Byzantine Empire
    AE follis
    Obv: D N mAV TIBERI PPS, helmeted, cuirassed bust right, holding cross in left and shield in right
    Rev: Large M, ANNO to left, cross above, A below, regnal year VI to right
    Mint: Constantinople
    Mintmark: CON (in exergue)
    Date: 587 AD
    Ref: SB 494

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  17. Hrefn

    Hrefn Well-Known Member

    B84FCC0E-80DA-44AC-A2A5-C82C3A086648.jpeg 93D9C341-78AD-4E40-B792-0ECB5BD5C300.jpeg The coin on the upper left is from Constantinople. Upper right is either Constantinople or Theupolis; the broad face is seen on some solidi from there. Both from Harlan Berk in 1990 and 1992. The bottom two are both from Carthage. The left one is from CNG sale XXII #778. The module of the lower right coin is pretty thick. It is from A H Baldwin in 2004 at the NY International. On the far right is a tremissis purchased from Arnie Saslow in 1989. Amazing to think that coin has been in my collection for 33 years.
     
  18. Quant.Geek

    Quant.Geek Well-Known Member



    Here is one I just picked up. Its a rarer type of the Maurice lead decanummiums. Morrison, based on her sample size, only found two of these types in comparison to the more frequently found one.

    Byzantine Empire: Maurice Tiberius (582-602) Pb Decanummium (Morrison 23-4)
    Obv: Facing, draped bust of Maurice Tiberius, wearing diadem with pendilia, flanked by two crosses
    Rev: Large I, topped by a cross; Є in left field, Δ in right field
    Dim: 15 mm, 3.24 g

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  19. BenSi

    BenSi Well-Known Member

    Very cool, I had no idea any Emperor besides Alexius had to mint in lead. I first learned about this series from @Voulgaroktonou , it was C. Morrison that first cataloged them.
     
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  20. Edessa

    Edessa Well-Known Member

    Maurice Tiberius, AD 582-602. Æ Decanummium (19x15mm, 3.65g, 2h). Constantinople mint. Struck AD 582/583. Obv: Helmeted, draped and cuirassed bust facing. Rev: Large I between star and officina; cross above, CON in exergue. Ref: DOC 18b (Tiberius II); MIBE 73A; SB 498. Very Fine, oblong flan, attractive dark green patina.
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  21. Quant.Geek

    Quant.Geek Well-Known Member

    Ditto! I wasn't aware of this either until @Voulgaroktonou showed his awesome collection of lead coins. I had to go and download Morrison's paper to read up on this.
     
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