You know that's what I think too. And in hand, this coin looks cleaned. But guess what... straight graded WITH CAC Is not even the grade. I feel it is details. I can't believe pcgs graded this straight. Then I can't believe CAC stuckered it. It took me several outtakes on the obverse to get it looking this nice. Most pics made it look horribly cleaned. The obverse is bad. I bought this for this reason. It has a hint of toning returned. But I don't think enough.