XTREME COIN MAKEOVER - Horribly Misidentified Trajan

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by hotwheelsearl, Mar 30, 2021.

  1. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    So I got this silver coin from eBay for like $11.
    Let me preface this by saying that this coin was actually purchased from a known fake seller, 'holdingancienthistory.' This is the same seller that I purchased the fake Vespasian NEP RED coin from.

    However, for the price I was willing to chance it. If it turned out fake, I could always return it, so there I went.

    The flip was atrocious. This seller appears to know little to nothing about ancient coins; that or he was faced with a box of coins and a box of flips, and just mixed them together.
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    There are several problems:
    1. coin is not Rome mint. Find me a Rome mint coin that uses Greek letters.
    2. Pax standing with.....cat? gato (spanish for cat)? what? I really don't think cats feature prominently on any ancient coins.
    3. Where's the attribution? How do you get R-4 without knowing what is it?
    4. $100? How can you price a coin with no attribution?

    On the bright side, the diam, weight, and composition are correct.

    Anyways, coin showed up encrusted to death which is why I thought it was more likely than not authentic.

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    The surfaces had obviously been worked on, with the excessive scratches. I believe that it was first entirely encrusted, then someone ground down the outer layer to see what it was.
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    There were green, black, brown, and red-orange mineral encrustations.

    I knew this could either be a great success or a miserable failure.

    I subjected it to a veritable gauntlet of chemicals:
    sodium hydroxide, acetic acid, citric acid, sodium thiosulfate, and at one point I even splashed some gosh-darn Tarn-X on it.

    Anyways, after over a week of abuse, I end up with this rather more attractive, and most importantly, genuine drachm of Caesaria/Bostra/Cappadocia, with Arabia, not Pax with a camel, not a cat.
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    Trajan AR Drachm
    19mm, 3.1g
    AYTOKΡ KAIC NEΡ TΡAIANO CEB ΓEΡM ΔAK
    ΔHMAΡX EΞIH UΠAT IZ
    Syd 185 (may be a different one due to different regnal year, but closest I'll get)

    Although I don't think the coin is the $100 coin it says on the flip, it sure as heck is worth more than $11 now, IMO.
     
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  3. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Nice Bostra issue. Of course, wildly misattributed. Fairly common coin, its a wonder the person was not familiar with it.
     
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  4. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I see these selling for around $40-50 on eBay, which is a far cry from $100 but also a far cry from $11. I'll take it.
     
  5. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    You did a great job. Congratulations! I scrolled through your message and I was expecting a disastrous result. Certainly not the case.
    The revealed details are simply surprising.
    ...I need to learn how to clean coins when needed as my result is, usually, a big mess.
     
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  6. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I didn't have my hopes up, but I figured for the price of a fast food combo I could do worse with my money.

    I actually did go too far - the stubborn bit of horn silver on the left side of the obv would not come off.
    The rest of the coin was a uniform, bright white, but I wanted to get rid of that small spot.
    A few days later, I started to realize a large grayish patch was forming on the obv which was resistant to any and all treatments.
    Not willing to give up, I used Tarn-X, which did nothing but provide it an (artificial) golden toning.

    It's not the worst, but I could have ended up with a nice bright white coin with uniform surfaces...
     
  7. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    You did better than Dr. Pimple Popper in your cleaning (yuck) - admittedly I watched that show once and never will again. For $11 it was a bargain.
     
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  8. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Oh my gosh that is disgusting. I mean it would be physically satisfying for the patient, but god awful to watch. blech
     
  9. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Pretty good price. These aren't as common as imperial denarii. I find them very interesting.
     
  10. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    I was watching that on eBay and was tempted - I felt it was genuine. I had no idea it would clean up that well - I am very impressed!
     
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  11. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    With the same size and weight and I assume fineness, I assume they circulated interchangeably with denarii?
     
  12. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Thanks! I am impressed too. However my experience shows that silver is less likely to be horrendously degraded underneath the crust as bronze; therefore I figured it was worth a shot. Paid off
     
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  13. romismatist

    romismatist Well-Known Member

    Wow - great job in cleaning that drachm - it actually turned out really well. And yes, that would be worth more than the $11 you paid for it. Definitely authentic as well, from the looks of it. Well done!
     
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  14. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Thank you! It was certainly a fun, frustrating, but ultimately satisfying experience.
     
  15. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ...what a great deal & great cleaning job Earl!....i believe that one might be one of the 1st, from the dies, used to hammer over those coins of Rabbel ll....maybe @John Anthony could ring in and give his opinion...:)
     
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