1919 1c 3.25g wheat off metal?

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  1. Bargainbidder

    Bargainbidder Well-Known Member

    Good morning,
    At 102 years not sure if it was a weak strike or circulation wear on obverse. Reverse is pretty defined and why I was wondering if maybe this planchet was meant for coin from another country but not sure when US started minting coins of other country's is why I am asking(3.25g). 20210330_055242.jpg 20210330_055306.jpg Image_2021-03-30 05_49_14_351.JPG Image_2021-03-30 05_49_35_481.JPG Image_2021-03-30 05_46_44_766.JPG Image_2021-03-30 05_50_38_005.JPG Image_2021-03-30 05_51_50_059.JPG Image_2021-03-30 05_51_38_503.JPG Also, the second 1 in date appears to have been taken out by a die chip and not sure if that is possible. Third and final question is the MM an S, or did fragment of die chip struck made it look like a MM?
    Thanks

    P.S. And no SensibleSal I didn't clean it..lol
     
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  3. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    1875

    As for the 1 in the date, a die chip would cause a larger raised lump, so it is either a grease fill or post strike damage. The area of the mintmark, if that IS a mintmark definitely shows damage.
     
  4. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    No. No. It doesn't look cleaned . It looks damaged . There's a damaged mintmark . Possibly an "S" .Not to mention a Damage 1 . I'm not much if a die chip disaster guy . :yack:
     
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  5. Bargainbidder

    Bargainbidder Well-Known Member

    I was just kidding Sal...lol
    But it looked like it went into a dryer by the rounded edge is why I'm thinking it was washed more than once in its lifetime...lol
    The difference in strike between obverse and reverse is why I was asking about off metal. Shouldn't the wear pretty much be even on both if caused by circulation?
     
  6. Bargainbidder

    Bargainbidder Well-Known Member

    Looks like a meteor shower of chips by pattern. I can't make anything out as far as MM with hit in that area.
     
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  7. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    This pretty much tells the story, IMO
     
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  8. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    I agree with Conder and Robert. Good luck
     
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  9. Mike Thornton

    Mike Thornton Learning something new everyday.

    I also agree with Conder and Robert. Possible explanations for the second 1, could include filled die but to me it looks like it was scraped off. Possible hit or intentional. As for the difference in wear, maybe it was laying on it's face in a container that experienced frequent movement over an extended period of time. Just a guess, thinking out of the box. The possible MM could be an S.
     
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  10. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    I'm still at the same place I was last year on this, it's a 1919S I believe, it's well circulated, and it may have been an overweight planchet when it was uncirculated but now weight is at the high end of tolerance. I don't see anything out of the ordinary to suggest it is a foreign planchet, just possible that it was a rolled thick planchet maybe from the start or end of the strip, that has since worn down to near tolerance, methods of planchet making were more primitive 102 years ago.

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/1919-s-lincoln-3-25g.367868/

    wear can be uneven from obverse to reverse, lets say it spends some time on a knock hockey table as a puck, or someone caries it for a while as a lucky cent and rubs one side, or it stays one side up in an abused collection with a kids touchy hands for a few years, or to shim something. most times they do wear evenly but there's cases where one side sees more wear than the other it's not extremely unusual. heck someone might have smacked the obverse with a hammer at some point.
     
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