1898 dollar

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by davemac, Nov 7, 2009.

  1. davemac

    davemac dave

    :eek:hya::
    Your help needed again
    1898 p dollar what grade would you give
    Remember its the best pics with a mobile phone i could get
    Dave
     

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  3. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    Maybe it's just the image, but I'm not even 100% certain it's genuine. Assuming it is, my grade guess is between AU58 and MS63. Sorry, that's the best I can do with the pictures provided.
     
  4. raider34

    raider34 Active Member

    I agree with Mark it's hard to tell from the pics, but imo from the pics it looks like the coin has been cleaned. One give away is the dirt that is still left in some of the denticles, the stars, and the date.
     
  5. Phil Ham

    Phil Ham Hamster

    My first guess was MS63. It looks legit to me but Mark is a far better judge than me on spotting fakes.
     
  6. davemac

    davemac dave

    Why is every thing i post is asked is it genuine
    its genuine
    and thanks for your quick reply mark
    i know the pics are not the best
    took them in day light i was trying to show the luster
    it must not have worked
    back to the drawing board
    dave
     
  7. Phil Ham

    Phil Ham Hamster

    You might be right but it could also be shading from the light. If it was cleaned, it was a very gentle cleaning.
     
  8. raider34

    raider34 Active Member

    True, another thing though is the color, if the pics are accurate, usually the lack of luster with that really white color is indicative of a cleaning, or an over dipping. But I agree it was probably a light cleaning, or over dipped, because I can't see any hairlines.
     
  9. Phil Ham

    Phil Ham Hamster

    Yes, you could be right about the dipping. I have a few morgans that have a similar color. I was hoping that it was just natural coloring but perhaps it is that evil dipping thing. I love the art of coin collecting. It almost makes you question everything; it's like Columbo Mumbo Jumbo!
     
  10. davemac

    davemac dave

    i like the morgans and i have quite have a few
    i would not alter pics so the color is wrong
    and it can be done
    i just say it like it is
    dave
    ps its midnight here so am going to bed ill fight with you
    tomorow
    dave lol
     
  11. chip

    chip Novice collector

    nice coin, does it have a good cartwheel effect? If so I would give it a ms-62.
     
  12. raider34

    raider34 Active Member

    Thanks for the heads up, it will give me time to sharpen my axe. [​IMG] Lol, but don't get me wrong I wasn't saying you were altering the pics, just that the pics might be off because they were taken from a camera phone.
     
  13. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    No doubt in my mind that the coin is genuine, I think the color is off due to maybe an acetone bath? Or like Raider said, could be an over-dipping.
    Not a whole lot of luster, and some small spots of wear.
    I'd say AU55
     
  14. davemac

    davemac dave

    3rd time lucky is what they say
    New pics no croping i just
    Resized
    Dave
     

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  15. Market Harmony

    Market Harmony supplier, buyer, refiner

    If it hadn't been cleaned, I'd say low MS. But I think that it has been cleaned, so I'm going with AU55. I don't like to give cleaned coins a "slider" status
     
  16. Scrumhalf2

    Scrumhalf2 Junior Member

    Novice opinion here but I agree with the cleaning the color/luster is very flat for the condition
     
  17. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    That's not a bad image for a phone. My phone won't even come close.
    Can you tell us what it looks like in hand. Any luster? I'm thinking it's not as gray as in the image.
     
  18. davemac

    davemac dave

    it has luster in hand one more try
     

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  19. CoinKeeper

    CoinKeeper Keeper of Coins

    Try taking a picture where a lightbulb is pointing down on the coin. That helps me capture luster. But make sure the light isn't reflecting right off the coin directly into the camera lens.
     
  20. Ahab

    Ahab Member

    AU58 is my guess.
     
  21. davemac

    davemac dave

    Thanks i will try that
    Even do iam getting fed up at this stage
    Loging off for a hour or two talk later
    Dave
     
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