I would like to apologize ...

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Clavdivs, Mar 28, 2021.

  1. Jim Dale

    Jim Dale Well-Known Member

    My wife had a close friend that she was "tied to her at the hip." She was deathly afraid of shots and had refuse to get the Covid-19 shots. My wife and I have gotten both of our shots. We got word Friday, that her friend was in the hospital. This morning, we got a call from my wife's friend. She died last night. My wife is now in our bedroom with the lights out with muffled cries. It is hard when you love someone that could have been saved. We are both going to our doctor to be tested as soon as we can get an appointment.
    Thanks to Coin Talk, I feel like I have tons of brothers and sisters. Thanks to all of you. Get your shots and see your doctor. We will all miss you.
     
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  3. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    Thanks Al. So is there anything distinctive about these post-plague coins, or is the XIII simply significant for those who know their Byzantine history?
     
  4. AuldFartte

    AuldFartte Well-Known Member

    @Clavdivs - I'm so terribly sorry for your many losses. To be honest, I haven't seen any of your posts that were mean-spirited in any way at all. On the CU forums, I would get into flame wars many times. I quit doing that when I re-joined here and at CU. I did end up apologizing to several folks over there before I left in 2009, and I'm glad I did, but I have seen no need for you to apologize for anything.

    May 2021 be a year of recovery for you. Grief never really goes away. The waves just get smaller and farther apart. Blessings to you and your family, sir.
     
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  5. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member


    That's terrible. Passing away from something you can't avoid, well, it's sad and a great loss, but it's life, afterall : we all go there someday

    Dying of something avoidable is another story. I'm devastated when reading this.

    I don't know how the situation exactly is at the moment in the USA (I know lots of people get their vaccines), but here in France we are quite slow because of bureaucraty and the lack of supply (it should improve soon though). But more than that, many people are suspicious towards the vaccine : I work in a primary care unit as a GP and we struggle all day long, explaining and trying to convince those folks that anything, even with some side effects is waaaay better than what your friend and your wife have faced

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  6. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Your apology is commendable but not necessary. We are all CTer's, we move on from the good, the bad, and the ugly. We are here to help not judge. Good luck
     
  7. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    My family has also struggled with COVID-19 but not to the same level as many on here have shared. I am truly saddened to read the stories shared on this thread and my thoughts are with all of you. Hopefully things will improve over the next few months as the vaccines roll out worldwide.

    @Clavdivs , I hope things start looking up for you soon and I hope to see you continue to post here. I always enjoy your posts and collecting style. Nice Byzantine addition.
     
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  8. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Prior to Justinian's year 12 the follis denomination had a right-facing bust. In year 12 there was a coin reform in which the coin became larger (huge--40 mm or so) with a facing bust. Year 13 is the second year of the reform coinage and the coins are still large. Over time, especially after year 15, the coins gradually became smaller and less impressive.

    For an introduction to Byzantine coinage:

    http://augustuscoins.com/ed/Byz/
    (Coin 14 is also year 13 and that one is 42 mm!)
     
  9. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    It was some thing along the lines of reading a book.
     
  10. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    I certainly am not one to hold grudges, especially if the other person feels the same way!

    And I'm very sorry about the difficult year you've had, especially the COVID losses in your family. Very fortunately, and knock on wood, I've lost nobody close to me. Although a good friend of mine, only about 50, with three minor children, almost died last Sunday. She had been quite ill with OOVID for a couple of weeks and developed a pulmonary embolism, requiring emergency surgery to save her life. So far, she's recovering OK, but it was touch and go.
     
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  11. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    Thanks Warren. I’m sorry to be so thick about this, but I take it that none of these coinage reforms was connected to the plague experience itself?
     
  12. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Year 12 was 538, before the plague of 540. The reform pre-dates the plague.
     
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  13. Quant.Geek

    Quant.Geek Well-Known Member

    I am so sorry for your loss. As far as I am concerned, I see nothing to apologize about. Hang in there, this nasty cloud will pass and there will be sunshine afterwards...

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  14. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    The pandemic has cost the world such a staggering toll, in lives lost, livelihoods ruined and anguish that really, words are insufficient. The world, even when it returns to a semblance of normalcy has been changed at basic, profound levels.

    I stay at home most of the time by myself, engaging in daily activities that provide some structure, but as time moves on, it seems almost as if destiny, and necessity, are calling the shots for the duration, at least in my case.

    Now, getting to Justinian I, here's my example from Antioch, year 13 a coin purchased from Harlan Berk back at the time when civilization was moving from square wheels to round ones.

    D-Camera Justinian I follis, Antioch gradient, ex Berk, yr 13 539-40 AD, 22.7 g , 12-14-20.jpg

    Here's another "wide module" follis, from Nicomedia, year 14.

    D-Camera Justinian I follis, Nicomedia, 527-65 AD, DO-117b. Berk, 12-29-20.jpg

    Followed, in no particular order, by a follis from Constantinople, year 12.

    D-Camera Justinian I Follis, Reform, Year 12, 23 grams,  8-11-20.jpg


    Notice the markedly different portrait styles?

    Which one appeals the most? I think Antioch takes number one. Nicomedia attempts to add a pupil, but the eyes themselves are quite "popped out".
     
  15. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Dear @Clavdivs - I was really hoping it wasn't something like this, but I wondered... you are a wonderful member of the forum and be sure that we're all willing to cut you some slack during this terrible time for you. Please PM me your address and I'll send something that will hopefully bring you and your family some luck. (If you include a want list, or a list of Roman/Byzantine emperors you're missing I can try to fill one of those holes.)

    Year 15 (541/2):
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  16. octavius

    octavius Well-Known Member

    I am so sorry @claudius to hear of your losses. You are a stand up guy and don't need to apologize.
    To put this into perspective, in WWII about 490,000 US soldiers were killed in action - and that's over four years. We have currently lost over 500,000 people in just one year to covid.
    I am a physician treating some of these people and 3 elderly patients of mine have died even while hospitalized. A colleague physician of mine contracted the disease and died as well. I currently have a close cousin who has been on a ventilator in Mass for over six weeks.
    Please everyone , use your heads and please , please get the vaccine!!!
    Please believe me, there is NO conspiracy!
     
  17. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Thank you all so much. I took a month off .. and feel quite a bit better. Coins have been on the backburner for a bit.


    Please reach out to those you know, or your neighbors. Some suffer in silence - please check on them..
     
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  18. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    For some reason, I always thought year XIIII was the plague year. Like Covid, the plague did not just go away like magic when the year changed. I hope 2021 goes in the right direction but it seems to be doing better some places than others. I do not know anyone who died of Covid but the last year has been rough on my friends from the traditional causes (cancer, old age etc. did not take a break). Where I live, there are jurisdictions turning down resupply since they have had many people cancelling vaccinations for political reasons. That will probably cause an upsurge later this year. How will this affect those of us who are vaccinated? How long will any protection we have last? Too many questions!


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  19. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum


    can I answer that? Vaccinated people are far less likely to get COVID-19 regardless of the neighbors. The real strength of vaccination is, however, to produce hurd level immunity in a given population.
     
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  20. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/110/3/540/5512192
    https://www.vox.com/2018/1/3/16845438/exercise-weight-loss-myth-burn-calories
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/can-you-lose-weight-with-exercise-alone1/
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/01/160128130943.htm

    There are dozens of studies now that show it is nearly impossible to lose signicant weight based on excersize alone, including serveral that studdy bushmen culture where they run all day and compare that to western cultures.
     
  21. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    i wish this thread would be closed
     
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