Aurelian - IOVI CONSER

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  1. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    The IOVI CONSER type is plentyful and not really sought after. So why on earth have I added one to my collection when I don't actively collect coins of Aurelian?

    I was taken by the style of engraving on the obverse. The portrait of the emperor grabbed my attention and then it was simply a further set of justifications to buy this coin.

    It was cheap as you might expect one of these common reverse types to be.

    It has some obvious damage at 11 o'clock and 5 o'clock. Could this coin have been holed at these points and the damage we see here is where the edge of the coin gave way and the coin detached from the cord / strap to which is was mounted?

    It is attributed to an Uncertain Balkan Mint and I hadn't owned a coin attributed to this mint before. This is the same mint that used the dolphin mint mark and I doubt I will ever own one of those so this is about as close as I will get.

    The coin type is broken into two phases of production at the mint with Phase 1 coins being of a smaller bust type to the Phase 2 coins. The phase 2 coins have a bigger chest area and a much thicker neck.

    The Draped variety of the type at this mint turns out to be much scarcer than the Cuirassed only variety. The ratios of examples cited on MER RIC are as follows - Phase 1 - Cuirassed - 191 examples, Phase 1 - Draped and cuirassed - 1 example. Phase 2 - Cuirassed - 208 examples, Phase 2 - Draped and cuirassed - 14 examples.

    My example is in nicer condition that the majority of the examples cited in MER RIC despite the damage to mine.

    Aurelian - Antoninianus

    Obv:– IMP AVRELIANVS AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:- IOVI CONSER, Emperor standing right with scepter accepting globe from Jupiter.
    Minted in Uncertain Balkan Mint. (//B). Phase 2. Autumn 272 – Autumn 273
    Reference:– RIC 394 Bust Type C. RIC temp #2516 (citing 14 examples)

    4.29 g. 23.49 mm. 180 degrees

    RI 125ap img.JPG

    Martin
     
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  3. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Despite their commonness, I don't have one of them; so here's two with two people on the back. Close enough?
    Aurelian BI Ant Cyzicus mmA.JPG
    Aurelian RIC 244 (2020_11_18 03_38_31 UTC).JPG
     
  4. Andres2

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  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I know nothing of this mint or type. Some time ago I sold one during one of my weeding phases. I have no idea who bought it.
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    That left me with one impaired by doublestriking. I kept it because of the way the second face fit in the head. I have no idea about the mints responsible for either.
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  6. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..nice choice! :)..i've the long neck version with quite a bit of silvering on the back kbaby eats Aurlieian silverwash antiochos ll lyre 004.JPG kbaby eats Aurlieian silverwash antiochos ll lyre 005.JPG
     
  7. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Interesting coin - I was not aware of this mint. The portrait is rounder than Aurelian is usually rendered - he almost looks like a later Tetrarch, like Licinius.

    Here is that reverse type from the Rome mint with a more angular, grouchy portrait of Aurelian. A shallow reverse gouge mars Jupiter, unfortunately:

    Aurelian - Ant. IOVI CONSER Jan 19 (0).jpg

    Aurelian Æ Antoninianus
    (271-272 A.D.)
    Rome Mint

    IMP AVRELIANVS AVG, radiate, cuirassed bust right / IOVI CONSER, Aurelian
    standing right, holding short sceptre, receiving globe from Jupiter standing left; P in ex.
    RIC 48 P corr.; Cohen 105.
    (3.28 grams / 23 mm)
     
  8. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    I think it is interesting that on the reverse of the OP the emperor is depicted as noticeably larger than Jupiter. I don't think I've seen this before.

    I wonder if this would have annoyed Jupiter. Do you think Jupiter had a hand in his murder?
     
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  9. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    The flans themselves were cast of molten bronze. Jere M. Wickens, in his essay, "The Production of Ancient Coins," written for Bearers of Meaning: The Otillia Buerger Collection of Ancient and Byzantine Coins at Lawrence University, notes that flans "were cast en chapelet, that is, using open or closed moulds in which a number of mould hollows were connected by channels." This resulted in a 'runner' or sprue between the cast flans, which would be removed before striking. Sometimes, the process of breaking off the sprue removed a chunk from the flan's edge, leaving what is known as a 'flan chip.'

    Your coin has two flan chips, one at 11:00 and the other at 5:00. Here's one of my coins with two flan chips:

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    Gordian III, with Tranquillina. A.D. 238-244.
    Roman provincial AE 4.5 assaria; 28.92 mm, 15.89 g, 7:00
    Moesia Inferior, Tomis, A.D. 241-244; Magistrate Pontianus
    Obv: AVT K M ANTΩNIOC ΓΟΡΔΙΑΝΟC // [C]ABINIA (TP)AN / KVΛΛINA, confronted laureate, draped and cuirassed bust of Gordian right and diademed, draped bust of Tranquillina left
    Rev: MHTPO ΠONTOV TOMEΩC, Nemesis standing facing, head left, holding arshin (rod) and sling, wheel at feet; Δ - < (denomination) in fields
    Refs: AMNG I 3537; Varbanov 5701; Moushmov 2279; Cf. SNG Cop 305.
     
  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    :) I did, thank you.


    Interesting Aurelian Ant, @maridvnvm , particularly Aurelian being larger than Jupiter on the reverse, and the runner clips at 11 and 5. I am curius about the Balkan min.

    And, like Doug, I do not know the mint mark on my coin...?


    AURELIAN

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    RI Aurelian 270-275 CE AE Ant receiving Globe from Jupiter IOVI CON SER *T Ticinum
    From the Doug Smith Collection
     
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  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I do not see this as a gouge but a weak struke that did not fill both sides of the die with the thin flan. The dent on the reverse lines up with the thick part of the portrait so neither die touched the metal and transferred detail. This is common during the period.

    *T - It is always interesting to know where my 'departed' coins ended up. I hope you and all the others who got my coins (or will in the future) are happy with them. I am currently sorting coins again selecting more I can live without. I'd like to get down to something like 3000 coins but that is probably more radical than I can see happening today.
     
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  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Thank you. Could not see the asterisk, but T was easy.
    Ticinum

    And, very happy with the various coins that I have gotten from you. I enjoy them a lot.
     
  13. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Nice thread idea on one of my favs!
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  14. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    I have one with the same mint mark:

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    Aurelian, AD 270-275.
    Roman billon antoninianus, 4.28 gm, 23.3 mm.
    Siscia, issue 6, AD 272-274.
    Obv: IMP AVRELIANVS AVG, radiate, cuirassed bust, right.
    Rev: IOVI CONSER, emperor standing r., holding short scepter, receiving globe from Jupiter standing left, holding long scepter; *T in exergue.
    Refs: RIC 225; MER/RIC temp 2208; Cohen 108.
     
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  15. Hermann Watzlawik

    Hermann Watzlawik Well-Known Member

    Here is my Aurelian from Cyzicus mint:
    RIC Va, page 304, #346, Cohen no. 105, not in HCC
    3,31 grams, diameter 21,35 mm SAM_3608ab.jpg SAM_3610a.JPG
     
  16. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    How are you deciding the T is the city rather than the third officina of Siscia? I'd need to look up the series to see if there might be a *P and *S in MER-RIC but that would be more work than I am into today. It is nice outside and I have weds and sticks and other attractions competing for time. Meanwhile, my break is over. Tomorrow will be rainy and leave more time for coins.
     
  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Fast, lazy google search, reviewed several sites: T only showed up. Specifically searched * and nothing appeared. Not my focus area, so probly erred.
     
  18. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

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  20. barnaba6

    barnaba6 Well-Known Member

    Nice coin, but it is not from Rome rather from Serdica. It is RIC TEMP 2599 to be precise:

    RIC temp n°2599 - RIC v1.0 Online: Roman Imperial Coinage (mom.fr)
     
  21. barnaba6

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