1972 1 Cent Mexico - Double Die?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by MIKE1969, Oct 22, 2009.

  1. MIKE1969

    MIKE1969 Junior Member

    Hi All !!
    This is my first post in this forum...
    Regarding Error Coins I have just purchased this coin (1 Cent Weathie 1972) seems to be a double die in the 2. What do you think?
     
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  3. MIKE1969

    MIKE1969 Junior Member

    Here are the pics... Regards.
     

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  4. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    It looks very possible but the pictures are just a hair under what I would need to be 100% sure.

    Thanks,
    Bill

    PS: Welcome!
     
  5. jcuve

    jcuve Lincoln variety fanatic

    I'm incline to say the "2" has MD (machine doubling)...
     
  6. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    Welcome to the forum Mike.
    I'd say machine doubling also. The size of the 2 hasn't changed.
     
  7. bebop

    bebop New Member

    I' would say machine Doubling to.
    bebop
     
  8. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    First:
    Welcome to the forum!

    Second:
    I have to agree with Bill.
    It does appear to be a good one.
    However, another thought, I do not know the Mexican coinage process. If the date (or digits) are applied to the die separately from the hub then it could be a repunched date.
    Not a logical thought, just a thought.
     
  9. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    1st Welcome

    To cointalk
     
  10. MIKE1969

    MIKE1969 Junior Member

    Thank You Jello!!
    Thanks Treashunt !!

    " I do not know the Mexican coinage process. If the date (or digits) are applied to the die separately from the hub then it could be a repunched date "

    Well as far I know the mexican mintage process is the same that US,one strike in a metal blanket, in fact some mexican coins were minted in US , In the XX century for example, the mexican coins of 2 and 5 cents were minted in Conn. and other cities.
    Best Regards to all and thanks for the warm welcome !!
    Mike
     
  11. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Okay, then it is strange since it is rather extreme separation, without any other part of the design showing any doubling.

    Another one for Mike Diamond?
     
  12. MIKE1969

    MIKE1969 Junior Member

    Well , if you see carefully, the "C" has a double line too...
    Regards
    Mike
     
  13. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    oh, never mind.

    MD.
     
  14. jcuve

    jcuve Lincoln variety fanatic

    It's MD.
    The 2 was squished by the die, that's why the the "2" is uneven and out of alignment with the other numerals.

    ...And welcome to the forum!
     
  15. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    I fooled with the pictures and a few things became more apparent. You can see them in the pictures at the beginning of the thread.

    Notches on the upper right of the 1 and 7
    Wideness of the numeral 9
    Doubling, of course on the 2
    Doubling on the C

    I'm gonna call it a doubled die based upon taking the time to look more carefully at the images:)

    Thanks,
    Bill
     
  16. MIKE1969

    MIKE1969 Junior Member

    Thanks Bill for for the "fresh eyes", you´re right :bow:, for comparision please find photos of "normal" coins of the same:

    Best Regards to All !!
    Mike
     

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  17. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    Nice pictures Mike. Your fist coin looks like the die shifted or whatever it's called, the area around the rim looks different then the others like a misaligned die.
     
  18. jcuve

    jcuve Lincoln variety fanatic

    Bill I have to respectfully disagree. I see very little of what you have noted. The photograph provided is not even remotely clear enough for a proper analysis and I am certain there was camera shake and a great deal of pixilation - and I kind of think that is what gives the appearance of notching. The OP's description is also not in line with this hypothesis, all that was stated was doubling on the 2. The 2 has the appearance of doubling (so does the C as you noted), but everyone is disagreeing on the reasons (I still think MD on both counts). Of course I could be wrong on all points. I am not looking to argue and have some sort of back and forth on this; there's too much of that on CT already. No one has seen this coin in person and thus analysis on this coin (and almost everything posted in the error section) is reliant on suspect evidence that we cannot control.

    What I would really like is better pics, even if I have to take them to know for sure.
     
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