ID Help - Hadrian Sestertius

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by hotwheelsearl, Mar 19, 2021.

  1. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I posted this yesterday in regards to the uneven patina.

    I went ahead and gave it the ole college try on attribution, but I ended up being split between a variety of female deities that all have a similar arm positions.
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    What I consider to the be the most likely candidate is
    RIC 777, Diana reverse
    RIC_0777.jpg

    Other options are:
    RIC 750, Felicitas
    RIC_0750.jpg

    Or Fortuna
    RIC_0760.jpg

    What do you think? I see no trace of a cornucopia or a sceptre, but then again that patina is pretty well roached where it matters.
     
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  3. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Upon closer inspection, the obverse die seems to be a closer fit to Felicitas rather than the others.
    I still am unable to clearly see what's in the left hand, but it could well be a scepter.
     
  4. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

  5. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the Clementia lead. At this point I could be just about anything.

    Catalog: Hadrian with female deity (uncertain) reverse
     
  6. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    The seller claimed it to be Diana, which seems to fit, but....
     
  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    It looks to me like one can se the staff on the right of the reverse which makes me believe it is RIC 750, Felicitas
     
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  8. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    Or it could be Diana as @hotwheelsearl mentioned, as initially I thought I can see the bow .... or the Clementia I found ...
    Frankly I think the attribution "Hadrian with female deity (uncertain) reverse" is the best you can do.

    One of my first ancient coins, from a time when they were just a curiosity.
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    Entry in my catalogue - Antoninus Pius (?) with unknown reverse.
    I love attributing coins, it's one of the greatest pleasures in this hobby, but in this case after hours and hours and hours of searching I just gave up.

    Funny thing is that when I first saw it, knowing nothing about ancient coins, all I saw on the reverse was a tree. Now I know the deity is probably Fortuna or Felicitas on my coin, but I don't think it can be attributed properly.
     
  9. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    That's brutal. I would almost be tempted to subject it to an acid treatment (similar to lifting dates off of Buffalo nickels), but that would probably do more harm than good.
     
  10. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    I don't think anything can be saved from my coin really. But I keep it - it is an ancient coin with history in it, although it's value is close to nothing :)

    Also I suspect your Sestertius was artificially toned. But I don't think cleaning it will reveal any relevant details...
     
  11. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Felicitas gets my vote - the "pole" of the caduceus seems apparent on yours.

    As for cleaning, again, I wouldn't, because I prefer splotchy patina to stripped.
     
  12. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    It's possible to one day ID it!
    I had this Crispus for MONTHS before I finally identified it as RIC VII Cyzicus 10 E.
    upload_2021-3-19_16-12-39.png

    Looking back, it's obvious that there is "RIS" on the upper obv, but at the time (brand new collector) I had NO idea where to start.
     
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  13. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Felicitas seems to have too much drapery that mine doesn't have; but then the Diana has a S-C letters that are much larger than thinner than the Felicitas...

    But the portrait matches Felicitas better than Diana!
    AHHHHH
     
  14. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    It's clear then, if you cannot decide between Felicitas and Diana, then it HAS to be Clementia. Or Fortuna :D
     
  15. JayAg47

    JayAg47 Well-Known Member

    I'm leaning towards Fortuna, as you can see there's the smudgy rudder to the left!
     
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  16. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    It's Fortuna. You can see a rudder at her feet in the left field.
     
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  17. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I was considering her for a minute but didn’t see enough paraphernalia to nail jt down. Thank you!
     
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  18. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    I am not sure, but I think @JayAg47 and @Roman Collector were meaning my Pius coin, as now I think I see the remains of a rudder on the left field.
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  19. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

  20. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    Thank you both, it is clear now for mine, quite surprising.
    Unfortunately there are many Pius asses with head facing right and Fortuna on the reverse, so attributing down to RIC number is not possible, but it's more than I could think :)
     
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