Please help identify this coin

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Daggarjon, Oct 18, 2009.

  1. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    I cant read the language, and have no idea where to start with a country or year.

    Any help would be appreciated!

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  3. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Chinese cash coin from somewhere between the mid-17th and early 20th Centuries.

    The top of the obverse is at approximately 4:00 in the first picture, and the top of the reverse is at either 2:30 or 8:30. I'm not sure of the top/bottom of the Manchu characters which I believe specify the mint.
     
  4. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Chinese 1 cash coin, Emperor Mu Zong, Tong Zhi reign, Board of Revenue mint in Peking, 1862-1874.
     
  5. davemac

    davemac dave

    have no idea

    :thumb:
    Sorry no idea but if manymore was here he would tell you very quickly
    Just have to takes a little while longer for him to answer
    Dave
     
  6. davemac

    davemac dave

    opps

    I was worng there more here that can answer my bobo
    Dave
     
  7. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    thanks for the help!

    Looking through the Krauss catalog with the help of Ardatirion's post, i was able to find a coin that looks very similar to mine. The inscription text is different though.

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    C# 1-14 CASH
    Cast Brass Obv. Inscription: T'ung-chih T'ung-pao Mint: Hupu
    Board of Revenue
    Date Mintage Good VG F VF XF
    ND(1862-74) — 3.50 5.50 8.50 15.00 —

    is this coin completely different then mine? Its the closest to mine i could find in the Krauss books.
     
  8. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Its the same coin. The problem is, there's a couple of different ways to anglicize Chinese, and Krause apparently uses a different one from me.
     
  9. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    krauss does alot of things different - most are not right lol. Its down right confusing at times!!!

    thanks for the translation/help!!! :) At least now i can mark the attribution on the label :D
     
  10. DCH

    DCH Member

    It's not real...probably a modern machine struck fake. Calligraphy is wrong(mint isn't even close), textured surface meant to imitate casting.
     
  11. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Very good. I was quite curious about why the reverse blended into the rim. And the calligraphy did look off. But I honestly haven't looked at enough of the Qing dynasty stuff to be able to tell.

    On the bright side, its probably only worth a dollar or two to begin with!
     
  12. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    FAKE? really? I recieved it in a small box of items a friend gave to me. Their father was in WWII, and in his travels he obtained the 'piece' in commerce. If it is a fake, its a fake that was made during that time period.

    I too noticed the rim being a bit flat on the reverse, but figured it might have to do with wear from being used.

    I dont know enough about the coins from that area ect so if you guys say its fake, i will notate it on the label!
     
  13. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    Chinese counterfeiting has an ancient tradition!

    The flat reverse rim is only one of multiple indications.
     
  14. MissSasha

    MissSasha Junior Member

    it's absolutely fake.

    I had my parents buy me one in chinatown when I was a kid for $2.00. EXACTLY the same coin. I still have it too.
     
  15. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Post it up, that one could be real. Chinese coins are funny like that.
     
  16. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Has anyone heard from Satootoko recently?
     
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