You thoughts on this 1951 Franklin Half

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by furham, Oct 18, 2009.

  1. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    I came across this 1951 Franklin Half that I would like your opinions on. My photography is not the best. The color is not quite right. The coin is a brilliant white. There are very few contact marks that I can see. I know it's a common coin, but to my eye it looks beautiful.

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  3. k9brain

    k9brain Junior Member

    WOW, what a beautiful coin!

    Most Frankies are not this well struck. Do you have a grade?

    I'm guessing MS67.
     
  4. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    No I don't. It's raw.
     
  5. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Looks like it could be a Proof to me, very nice! How much are you paying for it? Very nice, no opinion on the grade but I'm thinking very high. Not a 70 but very high just the same. :thumb:
     
  6. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    I'm not buying it. I found it in a roll that was given to me. I didn't think about it being a Proof. How can you tell the difference between a proof and a business strike? Maybe Physics Fan will show up tomorrow and provide some answers. He seems to be the most knowledgeable forum member on Franklin Halves.
     
  7. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Here's a link on the differences. His hair looks proof like but the coin doesn't have the DMPL areas that it should have. The DMPL stands for "deep mirror proof like" and it refers to areas around the devices, to the right and left of Franklin's head or bust. The DMPL reference is mostly used with Morgans but it really can be used for any coin.

    http://coins.about.com/od/uscoins/f/proof_morgans.htm
     
  8. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    Thanks for the link. The surfaces don't look proof to me. At least not compared to the more modern proof coins.
     
  9. Art

    Art Numismatist?

    Great eye-appeal. It does appear to be well struck. Nice clean new dies. Certainly a keeper.
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It's not a Proof. I would guess it would grade 65. It might go to 66 is the needed luster is there, but the quality of luster cannot be determined in these pics.
     
  11. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    MS64 Full Bell Line/FBL
     
  12. edssco

    edssco Junior Member

    Nice coin for sure,I would say MS65 .You say you found it a roll ?
     
  13. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    Believe me the luster is there I just can't capture it in my photos.
     
  14. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    Yes. It was in a roll given to me by my wife's cousin along with this interesting coin, and in this case the color is pretty close to the actual coin.

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  16. Ahab

    Ahab Member

    I have to second it.:bow:
     
  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I don't doubt that the coin has luster, it is the quality of the luster that I question. There can be a greal deal of difference from one coin to the next. It's not something that can be explained - it has to be seen.
     
  18. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    Agreed.
     
  19. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Going from the provided pictures, I would call this a 65. As GDJMSP indicates, the luster is what will really determine the grade on this one. Judging from the pictures (and how I interpret them), it does not have the luster for a 66.

    The coin is well struck, but it does not meet my standards (or NGC's) for FBLs. It would be called a FBL at PCGS - but that is pretty much worthless in my books. Remember, PCGS only uses the bottom pair of lines for the designation, whereas NGC uses both sets of lines. This coin would be eliminated because of the large bagmarks on the top set of lines, an easy to see one on the right, and a harder to see one on the left (partially hidden in the glare). The upper left quadrant also appears to have some weakness.

    So, to reiterate, I grade the coin MS-65.
     
  20. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

    Nice strike for a frankie. Really nice find from a roll. Its not a proof and I feel its a high end 65. Looks good with great eye appeal IMO.
     
  21. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    Thank you for your opinion. As I told you privately I highly respect your opinion. I'll try to get some different pictures up this weekend. I honestly think if you saw this coin in hand you might give it a slight bump.
     
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