Anyone have any guesses on the grade on these? What is the green stuff on the peace? Is it bad? It also has kind of a purple tone to the whole coin. My pics suck so im trying different lighting Seated Half, has it been cleaned? Bust, almost 100% its been cleaned, right? Does it have any value in this condition? Thanks!
This is going to sound a bit harsh, so I apologize in advance.... The peace dollar is AU details with PVC issues (the green spotting). It should be dipped in acetone immediately (do a search in other threads for GDJMSP's posts on this topic). The 1844-o half is XF details, net VF. Not a bad coin actually, but it has a few surface issues. The nick on the obverse left field, and I suspect the coin was entirely black like the few hidden areas on the lower left reverse and was dipped/cleaned to remove the darkness. The bust half is XF or AU details, and has been either polished or otherwise manipulated. It just looks "wrong". Respectfully submitted as my honest opinion...Mike
It does look like the capped bust half was cleaned, I would wonder how it was cleaned. are their lots of fine lines all running in the same direction in it? It may have had lots of tarnish and someone rubbed the tarnish off it, as for value it probably would be around a cnote, the reverse details look like a strong ef, the obverse looks like it suffered more, maybe a vf. I see a lot of those coins sold that are labeled cleaned, you can tell better than the pics if it was cleaned harshly or not.
I agree. The green definitely looks like PVC. The seated half has scratches, rim ding. don't know about cleaned, but I was guessing dug; surface looks a little granular. I don't know what happened to the bust half. I'm going with whizzed.
IMO The 1925 has VF details with environmental damage net Fine. The 1844-O looks to have VF30 details but for some reason I don’t like the look of the fields in the photos. Check it with a magnet & make sure it is made of silver & look at the reeding. The 1833 looks like altered surface. It has unusually strong features for not showing any flow lines or denticles. It could be your photos (all of them) but the coin as depicted looks suspect.
I'll take them one at a time , Bust half VF-30 , would have been EF but someone polished the heck out of it , Your Seated half is low EF and like Leadfoot said was probably black once , still a nice coin though . To answer your question if your Bust was harshly cleaned but still has value , probablly lost at least half and probably more from the harshness of the cleaning . rzage
About the 1833- I see the roughness in one area of the obverse field and some details where they should be worn off and no details at the denticles. Does anyone else think it looks like a polished China product?
The question was about cleaning, so I was not even thinking of a possible counterfiet, there are lots of issues of the capped bust with poor strikes.
I agree on the bustie xf details and O-108(I think - did not look any farther). I do not think it is a counterfeit and agree it is whizzed or polished.
thanks guys for all the quick comments. These are not my coins, but they are part of a collection that I am considering buying. I will post a few more coins also, but the majority of the coins are low grade or cleaned. Several appear to have the green stuff on them. What causes this? Is it from what they are stored in?
this green stuff is PVC damage. it comes from being stored in a flip that contained PVC. Many times the green stuff can be removed with acetone, but the surfaces will show damage. Be wary of soft plastic flips. Often the older soft flips are made with PVC and will damage your coins. Avoid soft flips if you are uncertain about their content.
The most conspicuous one is the Bust 50c. It's polished. It's only personal preference, but that is one of the things which, for me personally, is conspicuous from across the room out of the corner of my eye.
The peace dollar : XF details, PVC damage. We see those brown spots (obverse, near 12 o'clock) on a lot of silver dollars. I've always assumed they were due to small drops of condensed moisture on the coin for long periods. Thoughts ?
Bust half is most likely real , look at the stars , they are quite elongnated usually from using dies long past their prime , but maybe the chinese have realized this and are using it to fool collectors , also with the extreme polishing it's hard to tell what's what , thus the coin could be counterfiet . rzage
