I sent in a 1930 Fh and a 1917 type 1 FH to NGC the 1930 does not look as good as the 1917 it came back a great grade I was not satisfied with the grade on the 1917 so I sent it to another grading service it came back with the same grade. I looked at a 1917 on ebay that did not look any where close to the way mine looks and it was a very high grade some of my friends have looked at the coin and they all have agreed with me so know I'm going to post some pic. of it and let you guy's be the judge. http://tinypic.com/r/2a8hhsh/4 http://tinypic.com/r/sywhhs/4
I see a couple of small ticks on the obverse and the reverse has some marks on the two of the three stars near the Q in quarter... Still seems 65 to me. I doubt (from what I can see) that this would fall to 64 from those marks, unless there is a ding on the 7 in the date.... If so this could be 63.
yes it is I updated my post did not think everything went thru because I did not receive any post. So I listed it in us coin forum
I believe NGC requires 4 graders to determine and agree on the coin's grade. If they all thought that it's what it's slabbed at, and another TPG also did the same, it's in that holder for a reason. It is what it is regardless of what you think it should be
there are no dings on the 7. A 65 is what my friends and I came up with. The 1930 FH was graded a 63 FH it had a ugly tone so I poped it out diped it and sent it back in to ngc came back a 64 FH so explain that silvrluvr.This 1917 came back from ngc 62 FH sent it to anacs also came back a 62 Fh if it goes above 62 in the gray sheet it really jumps in price I'm assuming thats why they graded it what they did
The 1930 MS-63 FH may have been graded conservatively because of the toning and not knowing what was underneath it, and your dip removed it and the surfaces were 64 quality. Regarding the 1917 MS-62 FH, I don't know what could drop it that low, but something must be going on with the coin that we're not seeing. Maybe a scratch or something is borderline and they didn't want to bodybag it. I'm no pro, but if that many graders agreed on MS-62 FH, something is going on with the coin, in my opinion.
These are the types of coins that I like to look at under my stereo microscope at a reasonably high power, like 20-30X, to see what is going on with it. The graders don't do that though. I hear they use no magnification on up to 5X for grading purposes. Looking at the coin with a stereo microscope lets you see the coin in 3D, as long as you have two good eyes. You can't do that with a loupe.
One of my friends owns a coin shop here were I live he put it under a microscope could not find anything that would keep it at a 62 as a matter of fact he is the one that told me I should send it to another grading company. I guess if I wanted to spend the money and keep sending it in eventually it may get a 63 or 64 but it could also come back a 60 or 61.
Yeah, I don't know why it would only make a 62. The difference between a 62 and a 65 is usually really obvious. Does the edge look totally normal? Who was the other grader besides NGC? It just seems strange that so many so called 'professionals' would all say the same thing. Must be something goin' on with it somewhere....
Not so much the rims, but the actual edge or 'third side' of the coin? I'm gonna go back and look at the pics from the other thread to see if I can see anything.
What is the mark between the 'R' and 'I' of America on the reverse? Kinda looks like a gouge, but it's maybe just the holder or the pic.
If that is a gouge on the reverse...there's the problem. It is large and in a prime focal area. On a really good day, it might make a 63. If it wasn't a 1917 type one...I'd expect it to bodybag for damage. The rest of the coin looks 65 good easily.
its not a gouge it looks like a metal flake that may have been in the die because its not a cut into the coin looks as though its sitting on top of the coin
