Gorgeous 1919 D Lincoln, What kind of error is this?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by tdec1000, Oct 8, 2009.

  1. tdec1000

    tdec1000 Coin Rich, Money Poor :D

    Neat coin with gorgeous luster, This is not post mint damage. What could have caused this?
     

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  3. texmech

    texmech Wanna be coin collector

    I would agree, but I bet this group will come up with many reasons it is not a post mint damage. I have posted a few pics of coins that I thought were "error" type and evidently not. Anyhow good luck.
     
  4. texmech

    texmech Wanna be coin collector

    By the way, I love that tone. I am a bif fan of that, not the old style bright luster.
     
  5. Boss

    Boss Coin Hoarder

    I think you meant to say "this group will come up with many reasons it is post mint damage". Post mint damage will render it less valuable. I personally think that is mint damage but I am definitely not an expert. It is a nice coin IMHO.
     
  6. tdec1000

    tdec1000 Coin Rich, Money Poor :D

    I know that it is mint damaged. The IN in the motto is weak and so is the left wheat stalk on the reverse. This must have happened during the striking. Is it a ragged end of a planchet?
     
  7. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

  8. tdec1000

    tdec1000 Coin Rich, Money Poor :D

    You got to be kidding me. :) think it may have been a slight clip where the metal filled in but I am not 100% positive. This coin is 100% legit unmessed with.
     
  9. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    Looks like the die is deteriorated in some areas and a grease filled die in others.
     
  10. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    We need Bill or Mike D for this. I've never seen anything like that except on a PMD coin. However, it could have been struck-through...I bow to the real pro's on this one.
     
  11. Captainkirk

    Captainkirk 73 Buick Riviera owner

    I am leaning towards grease filled area for "IN" with some damage on the rim. It is the rim that is questionable whether it is post-mint or not. Maybe Mike D. has an idea.
     
  12. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    I was kidding you. Just threw it out there, because spooning it seems to me to be one of those words used when experts just don't know WTF went wrong with the coin. Was it a forlorn sailor beating it with a spoon in angst? Was it caught in a dryer? Was it caught in one of Iran's nuclear centrifuges? Perhaps merely the leotard of a ballerina practicing pirouettes? Maybe you just photoshopped it. If I sound cynical, maybe it's because I've been putting this "spooning" theory to the test for many nights now, and my wife has become quite jealous while the penny is still in the same shape I found it in. Of course I wasn't using Iran's nuclear centrifuges, but merely the sailors spoon. :hammer: I used a hammer here, because Nietzsche said, "If I had a hammer, I'd use it on the term "spooned." At least that's how I remember philosophy.
     
  13. bhp3rd

    bhp3rd Die varieties, Gems

    Looks like a incomplete strike due to a piece of metal or

    Looks like a incomplete strike due to a piece of metal or other material.
    Could be an defective planchet also showing up and hindering an complete strike.
    I would lean with something got between the dies though.
     
  14. coins are us

    coins are us New Member

    First of all I would say a greased filled die ,and the coin looks a little broad struck to me .The nick on the rim is Damage.
    Brad
     
  15. jcuve

    jcuve Lincoln variety fanatic

    I have to agree with much that has been said: it has the appearance of a struck through grease strike, but that rim doesn't make sense to me. Hopefully an error expert would know what's up...
     
  16. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Hi,

    I would be interested in Mike's take on this one too. Without having the coin to look at closely, I can only guess. It looks like something may have stopped the collar from engaging fully.

    It looks like there may have been something caught between the dies and the collar where some of the foreign material was between the dies and some of the material was outside the dies.

    I could be way off but it may have been similar to an indented strike where the material that caused the indent in this case was not a very solid object like a planchet or another coin.

    It appears to be an error but as mentioned I may not have this one just right:)

    Bill
     
  17. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    I would have to examine it up close to determine exactly what's going on. From here it looks like a defective planchet or pre-strike damage. That would account for the rim fading out in some areas, the weakness on the left side of the reverse, and the weakness in some of the peripheral obverse letters. A precise weight, preferably down to the nearest 1/100 of a gram, would be helpful in diagnosing this error.
     
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