Off Center Strike Question

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Numiser, Mar 18, 2021.

  1. Numiser

    Numiser Well-Known Member

    I understand that the planchet does not enter the coinage press properly during the strike thereby producing an off centered strike to some degree.

    So what happens to the next coin(s)?

    a) Does the process come to a complete halt. Collar break or alignment etc…?

    b) Does it just keep spitting out OC coins until noticed or a buzzer goes off?

    c) It’s just a one time thing and the system continues to produce normal coins?

    d) All of the above can happen on a really bad day.

    My curiosity was peeked when I saw a similar OC 2000 Philadelphia 1 Cent coin posted in another thread. @CoinCorgi

    Both coins seem to be very similar, but mine has slightly more lettering on both sides. Could they be from the same batch or run in different stages of multiple coins being struck OC in a row? From the position of the FG on both coins, they appear to be the normal 2000 CAM.
    Thanks.

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  3. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    The Mint uses more than one press to strike the hundreds of millions of pennies, so there is no way of knowing if they were consecutive strikes from the same press unless there is some marker that identifies them as such.

    NOTE: Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the Mint was using a horizontal press in 2000. Wouldn't that have some effect on coins leaving the coining chamber?
     
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  4. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Probably struck during the same run by the same setup/machine. No way to know if they were consecutive strikes, but I suspect pretty close to one another. I saw the OCs that were taken from the same bag, hundreds of them, and some were similar, but others were vastly different.
     
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  5. Numiser

    Numiser Well-Known Member

    I didn't see any die marks that matched but there are two identical notches in Abe's right shoulder that are interesting. Would those notches be part of the machinery that hits the planchet because of the OC strike?
     
  6. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    This in general.

    I believe they were to the horizontal presses in 2002, and if the planchet is not in the collar gravity would make it fall out of the press, so many fewer off-centers. This can be seen by how much rarer and more valuable 2002 and later off-centers are as compared to pre 2002 coins.
     
  7. Numiser

    Numiser Well-Known Member

    Ok, I can see coins droppng from a horizontal press onto the floor.
    Thanks.

    So the next question is what are those two notches?

    The distance from the rim to the two notches seems to be about the same distance as the OC strike.

    Could the notches be part of the ejection mechanism that helps eject the coin?

    As in you wouldn't see them on a normal strike.
     
  8. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Ejection system, if not gravity, is probably air. Short burst of compressed air from a line run through the press.
     
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  10. Numiser

    Numiser Well-Known Member

    The notch kind of reminds me of how a .22 semi-auto rim fire casing ejects.

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