A chip or a gouge or a crack I don't know

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by coins are us, Oct 8, 2009.

  1. coins are us

    coins are us New Member

    Here's a 1965 kennedy halfe dollar with a Mark on the left sid of his cheek bone looks like a die crack but I don't really know I think it's a die chip maybe I don't know I'm still learning about the chips and the gouges how to tell the differance I'm so frustrated
    Thank you everybody for your help.

    Brad
     

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  3. coins are us

    coins are us New Member

    Why is nobody helping me?
    Brad
     
  4. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Brad, it has only been an hour and some minutes since you first posted your question to the forum. Not every one of the 20,000+ CT members is online at the same time you are... It's dinner time for some folks, others are going home from work, some members are in different time zones or countries and you have a description that doesn't match your pic, the pic says '1851 countesta cents'... Try uploading good photos while you wait for replies. Picture the whole coin and also a close up shot if you can.
     
  5. coins are us

    coins are us New Member

    I'm so sorry i didn't realize I posted the wrong pic i apologize so sorry . Now i have to find the kennedy half dollar so sorry again I apologize I;m sorry please forgive me i don't want anybody to thimk i'm stupid sorry again .Oh I feel so bad I really do I'm sorry again:headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang:
    Brad
     
  6. jcuve

    jcuve Lincoln variety fanatic

    CONECA says this about DIE CHIPS:

    These are small raised irregular blobs of metal found usually at the design stress points. They are most often found in the recessed areas of certain letters or numbers (e.g.; B & R of LIBERTY and the 9 & 5 of the date). This is because the recessed areas of the letters and numbers on the coin are raised areas on the die, which look like little islands. It does not take much stress before these raised pieces of the die start to chip and break off, leaving a raised area on the coin where a recessed area is expected. 1918-S 1c w/die chips in Mint mark. (Coin courtesy of James S. Bailey/Photo by Ken Potter)
     
  7. coins are us

    coins are us New Member

    I thiought it was a 65 kenedy hafe but it's a proof 1983 with i don't know what the hell is in his head. Here's the coin now with the arrow in his head. Is that a die arrow. I read that in coin world that these can be called a die arrow is that true?
    Thanks for looking everybody:thumb:

    Brad
     

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  8. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Work on the typos a bit too (they make for some serious hard reading) and remember to upload the pic?
     
  9. coins are us

    coins are us New Member

    I did upload the pic above you post is that a die arrow i read that in coin world and how does that happen on a proof coin please explain i want to learn.
    thank you for your help .
    BRAD
     
  10. andy21us

    andy21us Coin Hoarder

    Some times it takes time for the right person to read your posting. Not that I'm the right person but I will try to answer your question as best I can.

    First: a Die Chip is a small, irregular cavity on the die resulting from a small chip. This results in a small raised area on the coin.

    A Die Gouge ia s raised area on the die that is the result of damage caused by a gouging action from engravers tools, ejection mechanisms, awls, or anything that results in a gouge in a die. This will also result in a raised area on the coin.

    You can also go here for more info: http://www.vamworld.com/Die+Gouge?responseToken=2c2a03ef18857563e30e663ca28533ca
     
  11. coins are us

    coins are us New Member

    Thank you so much for that information but my question is what is a die arrow. I read that in coin world and it looks like my coin. I forget what issue I red that in maybe two years ago .I was confussed when i red that information and the name who wrote it was I forget.

    Well thank you anyway everybody is so nice here i like this coin place.
    Brad:stooge:
     
  12. andy21us

    andy21us Coin Hoarder

    Sorry, but I'm not famillar with the term DIE ARROW. Not that there is not such a term but I do not know it. I have look at all of the terms and definitions that I have and I can not find it.
    http://www.2-clicks-coins.com/coin-glossary/coin-dictionary-letter-a.html
    http://www.pcgs.com/lingo.chtml
    Maybe someone will know the term and let you know or if you can find the article that might help.
     
  13. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    It looks like a crack to me. The only thing that I can think of is the term referring to the arrows to the left and right of the date. These were added to the dies to indicate a weight increase or decrease.
    1854-50C-ANACS-VF30.jpg
     
  14. zekeguzz

    zekeguzz lmc freak

    Hi Brad. It is hard to tell from your picture because I could not get the thumbnail to magnify. Fisrt of all I gather from you explanation that it is incuse or indented and not a ridge. This, and I'll say ' crack', appears to be irregular, not straight. So I don't think it is a 'die arrow' or marker of any kind. The 1965 Kennedy half dollar was the first clad half after the 1964 silver isue. I believe this is a separation and stress fracture in the outer layer.
     
  15. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    no such animal as a 'die arrow' except (perhaps) on eBay, where it is still meaningless.

    This looks like a die crack.

    nice example.
     
  16. coins are us

    coins are us New Member

    I found the information on the web my coin proof coin that is it's called a spiked head why did they refere it to a die arrow in coin world that's stuped to confuss eveybody.Well maybe they didn't kniow what they were talkng about whoever wrote the colume
    Thank all of you so much for trying to help me anyway:)
    Brad
     
  17. jcuve

    jcuve Lincoln variety fanatic

    Do you have a link to that article? Strange term, I agree with whoever said it sounded like an eBay selling term. I can understand your confusion. If I am seeing your coin correctly, it looks like a die crack. I don't collect Kennedy proofs so I am not sure how common or uncommon a crack like that would be - I doubt there is any additional premium either way. Regardless, it is a nice photo.
     
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