1804 Silver dollar

If it was just a tad nicer I would have bid $2.35 million ,:eat:
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It would be really cool if it were real.
There was this guy named Scotty that lost one.

 

Don't know about the rest of you all, but I feel safe saying it is a fake. Just a link. Of course they could always prove me wrong and send it in for certification. And if someone has certified it as real - well, take what ever they offer.

 

Still no picture. I'm starting to think this is a prank thread.

 

In all likelihood, the coin is fake. There are only a few known authentic examples and this is among the most counterfeited collector known in existence. There are literally millions of fakes. If you could post clear pictures of both sides we could say for sure...but without a picture we have to assume your coin is a counterfeit.

 

True. In all likelihood, this thread is fake.

 

Sell for the 'undisclosed amount'

 

if you can get pcgs or ngc to cerifify it, i am sure you can sell it for millions

 

You need to RUN and not walk to get whatever it is that they offered to you.

The location of all 15 genuine specimens is known. This means yours is not genuine and is of no value. If someone has made you an offer you need to take it immediately because the information you have provided in this thread proves that it is not a genuine piece.

 

This thread should die--the chance of it being real is zip.

 

All KNOWN specimens. What about unknown ones? (I believe there may still be a chance of another unknown piece out there. Contemporary reports had at least one Class II dollar leaving the country before the Mint recovered them. If true there may still be another class II waiting to be found.)

Both of the Dupont robbery coins were recovered years ago.

But there is no record of how many 1804 dollars were actually made. In 1961 you would have said "The location of all 14 genuine specimens are known. This means yours is not genuine and is of no value. " but then the King of Siam coin turned up in 1962.

Having said all that I will also say that the chance of it being real is almost certainly zero.

 

Hi I got this 1804 coin from a local coin collector. Here are the images of the coin, can anyone please tell me whether it is real or fake. The rim of the coin appears to have the words HUNDRED CENTS ONE DOLLAR OR UNIT inscribed on it but they have faded over the years. When the coin is flipped sideways the image of the other side is upside down. Thank you, would like to hear from you guys soon.

 

It's 100% fake elsie, but you would get more responses if you started a new thread rather than tacking your post on the end of one that is nearly three years old. Welcome to CT!

 

There were 16 states in the Union once Tennessee joined on June 1, 1796, hence the numerous 16 star obverses. Afterward the Mint (unlike the Chinese) realized they couldn't keep adding stars so they reverted to 13 stars. Ohio joined in 1803 so there were 17 states in 1804. But oh wait, the genuine 1804 Original silver dollars were struck around 1835 (the reported 19,570 pieces were dated 1803 or earlier). By then there were 24-25 states in the Union.

 

elsie's coin is definitely a fake. The 4 is much to heavy. I having traced down which obv the used for their model but the reverse is the one used on 1800 B-11 and B-19. So there is a fair chance that the obv was modeled after one of those two.

 

It wouldn't fool many professionals, that's for sure.

 

Have you tried the magnetic test? Chances are that it will be attracted to a magnet, hence counterfeit. Be sure to let us know.

 

Is there something preventing you from showing us a 600dpi scan of both sides?

 

​Fake!!!

 

Probably non-magnetic, as are most of the replicas coming out of China... and have been for the past five years or so.

I assume you're referring to elsie's coin, as the OP hasn't been around for almost three years. If so, for what reason? The posted photos are more than adequate to determine authenticity (which in this case is spelled out quite well by Morgandude).