1931 buffalo with a planchet error?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by fretboard, Oct 5, 2009.

  1. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Excuse the pic, I can't seem to get a good enough color pic of this nickel. I bought this beauty and I couldn't help but think that the coin dealer had burnt me. When I looked at it under a loupe I saw this area which looked like someone had taken some silver and filled in a crack in the coin. I took it to a coin show b/c I wanted to see what a couple others would say. Anyways, they both said that I have a gem planchet error. It's really a beautifully toned gem, both sides. Anyone ever see a nickel like this?

    One of the coin dealers told me that during this year and others the US mint was having problems with their planchets. Anyone?
     

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  3. just coins

    just coins New Member

    Please post a better pic can't judge by this pic sorry
    jc
     
  4. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    We definitely need a better picture to see what the feature is on the coin.
     
  5. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Alright, I'll bring it up again after I figure out how to get some good pics taken. :kewl:

    Ok I'm back with the best pics I could take. I've been told that this crack that looks like it's filled with silver is a planchet error. Has anyone heard of this year buffalo having planchet problems?
     

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  6. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Planchet problems in the early 30's with buffalo's? If my pic still isn't good enough, I'll be back in a few months. :D

    Incidentally I know it says cracked die on the flip but I was told by 3 coin dealers that it's a planchet error. I wrote cracked die, my bad. Heck I don't really know the difference. One of the dealers said that in these years there was a problem with planchets. anyone heard that?
     

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  7. jcuve

    jcuve Lincoln variety fanatic

    The pics are entirely too small and I have no idea what part of the nickel is in question. By your description, "...[a] crack that looks like it's filled with silver," it sounds like it could be a die crack to me, but again we need to see a picture to be able to make an educated guess.

    As far as the Dealers' assessments are concerned, they may be right or totally wrong. If they don't deal with errors and varieties I give them no better than a 50/50 chance at being right.

    Try taking your pics using a digital camera with a macro setting (usually on the dial with a flower icon) and getting really close to the area in question.

    Postscript: after downloading the picture and zooming in I guess it is the area on the upper portion of the braid. Seems like a strange place for a planchet problem to appear, but I'll let some buffalo nickel experts chime in as they may know something I don't...
     
  8. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    Pictures really are not good enough to draw a conclusion. 1931-S Buffalo had a fairly low mintage - somewhere around 1.2 million. With a mintage as short as this coin - such a die crack would more than likely be a major feature on a large percentage of 31-S buffaloes. Which makes me lean more towards lamination, planchet error or post mint damage.
     
  9. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Got it, y'all are right!! :headbang:
     
  10. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Well I'm back. The error is right on the Indian's braid or tie where normally there wouldn't be anything. I mean there shouldn't be a braid at that location. Is this a cracked die? A laminate crack or simply caused by a bad planchet and that's the name a bad planchet error? Anyone?
     

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  11. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    I sure 90% that what it is called a planchett error
     
  12. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Thanks jello, I needed that!!
     
  13. coins are us

    coins are us New Member

    I totally agree with the jello on this one.
    Brad
     
  14. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Hi,

    The problem is that lamination errors are plentiful on early nickels. Most often it is the case on Indian Head nickels that a lamination error detracts from the overall appearance of the coin. It may cause an error person to add a few dollars to the price of the coin but it often causes the regular collector and dealer to deduct a few dollars from the value of the coin.

    It is a common error type on Indian Head Nickels as well as most nickels prior to 1950 or so.

    So in this case the error can hurt the coin rather than help it.

    Thanks,
    Bill
     
  15. domdino

    domdino Junior Member

    planchet error

    Here is a scan of a 5 cent 51 S I have. Collectable itself, but has what I suspect is a planchet clip (curved) on the edge.
     

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  16. domdino

    domdino Junior Member

    lamination errors

    Keeping in theme with this thread, here's a scan of two lamination errors I have. Both are 2006. Both are without Nickle on the reverse.
     

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