:bow: I bought there coins today One 5 dollar 1901 s mint One 2 pound 1887 And 1 guinea 1795 But the 5 dollar first I would like to ask you to grade. the forth pic looks like silver but it is a phone camera with a 30x loupe Not great pics .i like to take my gold pics outside but being tonight its inside It is my first us gold coin I bought the 5 dollar and the 2 pounds for 400 euros gold content i know i wasnt rob But would like your say Dave
I hope I'm wrong , but the mushiness of detail along with the grainyness of the planchet and a few pimples makes me wonder if it's counterfeit , is it slabbed and did you get it from a reliable source ? rzage
I would say XF... if it's not counterfeit. I agree, the porousness of the field in the first picture brings up a red flag. Also it seems to have luster while lacking much detail... If you could give us more detailed pics, I'm sure somebody here can help you with authentication
it real :thumb: Got it checked its real. as i said before the pics are not great so i will try to get better pics in the daylight Dave
If you look at the pit in the field to the right of her hair on her neck , check to see if there is luster on the inside , also are the edges of the pit sharp or rounded , if it has luster and the edges are not sharp it could be from the host coin that was used to make the casting or die . rzage
I'm also concerned about it's authenticity, but it also has the look of an authentic exjewelry piece. They are usually polished and have nicks and kind of look like this imo. Have you weighed it?
more pics :goof: More pics 8.3g It could be a exjewelry but cant see any marks that are commom to jewelry Dave
I believe the coin to be cleaned in some way, judging by the pics... From the first set of pics, it almost looks like there are hairlines that can be defined a little, and the mushiness of the coin covers it up. The coin is very odd looking. If the coin is authentic and not cleaned, I'd agree with schroeder, and say EF.
ok i dont no if it has been cleaned in the past but has a very strong strike I look to the wings and the hair line and see very liltle wear but then i am no expert on gradeing in hand it has very nice apeal It is authentic as i said i got it checked by a jewler Dave
"It is authentic as i said i got it checked by a jewler" I would say most likely the coin is real, but even if a jeweler checks and it says that it is gold, it still could be a counterfeit. As most early gold counterfeits were made out of gold, but not a high purity as US mint gold coins, so it would still register as gold, but when you melt it, it will be less pure. From the other pictures, it is an XF/AU coin that most likely has been cleaned.
I've looked at all the photos, and I don't see anything that shouts 'fake!' to me. The obverse looks more worn than the reverse, to me anyway, which could be explained by it being worn as a necklace. I assume the weight/ diameter checked out ok (did I miss that in an earlier post?)
In addition to that, some gold counterfeits are made of purer gold than U.S. authentic gold coins. U.S. gold is usually 90% gold... and some counterfeiters will go all out 24 karat.
The new set of pics do help , and so do the comments of others , most likely real . It was the porosity or the look of porosity in the first pics that made me think it might be counterfeit . And as a few posters mentioned most modern fakes are made up of 90% gold , you should read Matt Dutchmans thread on gold fakes , he routinely runs up on many fake that fool a lot of dealers , he sells these fakes to be melted for their gold . rzage
That's true. Personally, I have not heard that. It certainly seems unwise; for one thing, they're putting more intrinsic value into a coin which is only worth melt. Worse, they're throwing off the density and thus the weight. Commonly, they'll get the assay perfect by melting down an authentic, low value coin - usually a larger denomination like a $10 or $20. That's why it's common to counterfeit smaller denominations - they get more counterfeit pieces per melted authentic piece.
